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  1. Stowaways

    Back to the stowaways. Apparently they have now made a full recovery, been arrested, and handed over to the UK Border Control authorities.
  2. Stowaways

    Agreed! Me neither.
  3. Stowaways

    My point is that problems like Afghanistan do not have a single cause. They are complex problems with underlying historical causes that can go back decades or even centuries. I agree that many problems in the world have some roots in our colonial past, but Afghanistan was never part of the British Empire. In many ways, a lot of Afghan's problems can be traced back to roots that have Russian origin. You could argue that religion might just have a sizeable role to play in many of the problems in the world too.
  4. Stowaways

    Ah, so that's where history starts then is it Neil? That is "the cause" of Afghanistan s problems. Us. The fact that we sent troops to help deal with a problem at the time. It is clearly immaterial what the reason was for sending them in the first place. I'm sure there would be no problems at all in the country if the Taliban had remained in power. No, of course not, the only thing that "caused" any problems was that we tried to help. I think you will find. Neil, that history is a lot more complicated than just trying to blame the UK government for all the world's problems. But in any case, if that is what you think, then just how do you propose the UK "solves the cause of the problem" now? It is years since we had any direct involvement in Afghanistan. Are you suggesting that we should go back in and start running the country for them?!
  5. Stowaways

    And then there are people who say it is not our role to meddle in the internal workings of other countries. Should we be sticking our oar in everywhere we see a problem in the world (or something that we consider to be a problem)? And how far back do you go in locating "the cause" of a problem? These things never have a single starting point, there is always something further back in history that you can point to. Ultimately, we cannot change history and we cannot solve the "causes" of every big problem in the world. Best we can do is deal with the here-and-now consequences of other people's decisions.
  6. Stowaways

    Except that opinions as to the cause of the problem may differ widely. Ultimately, the cause of the problem may be not ours to fix (or may not be one that we have the ability to fix).
  7. Stowaways

    Very. In principle I agree with G4rth, the fact that somebody is in need of medical treatment is what matters and they should be able to receive it. But it does need to be paid for by somebody, and I don't think there are many countries (even in the EU) other than the UK where the taxpayer would just be expected to absorb the cost. But my bigger concern is the what happens next. Do they get put back on a boat or plane headed for Ireland (as that is where they were going, albeit illegally); do they get sent back to France (as that is where the sailing originated from); do they get sent back to Afghanistan (in which case presumably only after a costly court process, presumably also paid for by the UK tax payer); or is the UK expected to now look after them now that they have landed on our soil?
  8. Stowaways

    UK has to pay, and red tape probably says that since they managed to land in the UK the UK must keep them. And who knows what problems to then have with them down the line...if they become radicalised, for example, or are already entering out of radicalised motives.
  9. General Discussions on Brexit

    Good question. They're all a shambles aren't they. It's definitely a case of lesser of evils / damage limitation at the moment. The Labour Party has even further distanced itself from being fit to govern by refusing to even engage in discussion over what the party's position should be on Brexit. I'm also amazed, given that almost half the electorate wanted to stay in the EU and there is one party whose policy is to stay in the EU, that the Liberal Democrats are not proving to be more popular.
  10. Stowaways

    ....from where what will happen to them, and to receive treatment paid for by whom?
  11. Here is a link to what I discovered almost by chance when I travelled on Normandie last year: http://bfenthusiasts.com/bfe/topic/11157-is-it-worth-it/#comment-171689 You need to scroll down a bit.
  12. General Discussions on Brexit

    You can't know that can you? Depends how attractive they perceive us as a place to come to live. There could be all sorts of factors that could impact on that. For example, if they know that they are not going to be able to immediately access welfare support then some of them may start to look elsewhere.
  13. Boarding Times on the Bretagne

    Well, for a start, the two together would be logistically impossible on most BF ships. Apart from on the twin-level drive through ships on Portsmouth-Caen and Poole-Cherbourg, first on could not possibly go with being first off. Unless you a lorry driver being parked on the main deck I suppose. But cars get put on upper decks and mezzanines, so if you want to go on first you have to accept it will be a while before you will get off.
  14. This has only just occurred to me but I can't quite reconcile BDS running in tandem with the 1630 from Ouistreham with the timetable. BDS's weekly Le Havre-Portsmouth sailing is overnight Friday-Saturday. Sure it wasn't Etretat?
  15. Great report Adam, and glad you had a good holiday. Did you take breakfast in the cabin or did you use the Commodore entitlement in the Deauville? Like you, I'm lookng forward to the transfer of Normandie to Le Havre. Have not sailed into or out of Le Havre (on a ferry) since doing so on a pre-rebuild Viking Valiant during the first year after TT left Southampton. Looking forward to Normandie giving me the opportunity to do so again. As you say, her arrival on the route will represent a paradigm shift in standards.