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  2. Gareth

    2021 Timetables

    Just a quick note to record that a number of off-topic posts have been removed. This thread is about the 2021 timetables, which have been part-released, what they show and by extension what can be logically inferred from what has been published about those bits that haven’t yet. It is not about speculative discussion of what BF might / might not / should / should not do about certain ports / routes at some other point in the future not connected with these published timetables. (And especially not where those speculations have already been aired ad nauseam in the forum). 😉
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  4. Should have been last Friday (10th), her AIS has been out of range since July 10th but no one knows whether she's already been out or not.
  5. Seashore

    2021 Timetables

    Yes, it could have a better year round service. Doesn’t mean Brittany Ferries have to provide though?! On a slimmed down Portsmouth to Cherbourg (NEX gone) and St Malo (potentially?) service then Ouistreham is better placed to pick up the passengers. I remember early 2000s when I lived in Pont-Aven I’d have to trek to Ouistreham or Le Havre in winter as all the Breton ports were unserved in winter. Looks like we may be back to that. BF are in trouble financially, they’ve said, and whilst they have a loan it’s exactly that, it must be paid back. They also have not endeared themselves with customers in the whole refund debacle that isn’t unique to BF by any means, as a whole the travel/tourism industry has done itself no favours and has come off pretty poorly, but BF are up there with Hoseasons and Skyes Cottages as being one of the worst for declining refunds. Try to talk to them, I’ve not, and you’ve got a company hanging on the goodwill of customers to a few staff members - BF would be lost without Jane!! Perhaps BF have just grown too complacent. I’d love to see a ship with a big “S” on a red funnel sail out of Le Havre every day. Or you never know, a displaced Calais Seaways could make an unlikely return, but possible DFDS could. The best news for Le Havre in the long run is that BF stop hogging the linkspan with a token service that’s just about stifling competition. Your passion for Le Havre is magnifique but BF are not going to move from Ouistreham to Le Havre... not going to happen.
  6. We just have been and we're returning on the 24th until 3rd August. Toilets and showers open and cleaned regularly, restaurant staff wearing visors and serving customers on the terrace, natural distancing between pitches. the only place they're insisting on masks is in the reception and shop area. Bookings there have gone mad now the quarantining has been lifted.
  7. LHCity

    2021 Timetables

    Quite simply because Le Havre is the first commercial port in France and needs a cross-Channel link all year round. The port authority has invested heavily in the terminal, and I can't imagine BF no longer serving its main port used for the armament of its ships... there's a backtment. Also, don't forget that the quality of the supply attracts demand. With Etretat and Connemara, it's a survival waiting for better.
  8. Seashore

    2021 Timetables

    It looks like it would be a Sunday morning as that’s 2h45m in Roscoff as opposed to 2h on Wednesday morning and 2h15 on a Friday night. They’re all published times except the Santander crossings, but looking at the published schedule she can’t be doing anything else other than what’s published. But she seems to be doing mostly 5h15m crossings on Plymouth-Roscoff so it’s hardly as fast as she can go, so there’s some room to make up time if delayed?
  9. Seashore

    2021 Timetables

    Cap Finistere can go fast, but is massively overpowered. The Superfasts might be fast in conventional terms but they don’t employ any new technology to do that, it’s just pure brute force that makes them go so fast. That’s why Stena run theirs much more slowly because they’re vastly more efficient and far cheaper to run at around 19-20 knots than at 27-28 knots. Maybe the fast way down to Spain will now be Plymouth on PA, she could go more slowly but she’d miss out that Tues/Weds return to Roscoff. Galicia won’t be fast but she’s ultra efficient, Stena Estrid and Edda can maintain 18 knots on one engine (useful for Estrid as the other one hasn’t be working!). Does CF now need to pelt it down there at the same speed? Portsmouth to Spain looks like it maybe be a slower and certainly less luxurious option now that PA is off it in Summer. Perhaps CF only does two Spain returns? Perhaps she calls in to Le Havre once a week? But why maintain a base in Le Havre for one crossing? With capacity restrictions on passengers there’ll be fewer car on car decks and therefore Normandie/MSM have more space for freight. I’d put money on CF going to St Malo in winter at least, with Bretagne doing a short 4/5-month season. Or between Cap Finistere and Bretagne, one of them goes either into cold layup or gone from the fleet forever.
  10. Tumnus2010

    2021 Timetables

    Doesn't leave much time anywhere for a crew change?
  11. FN, really nice model you built there. Aside from commercial confidentiality, as mentioned by Cvabishop, copies of ship drawings, plans etc to third parties could be seen as a security risk. It could still be worth a try though. You might want to stress that you only want exterior plans!
  12. Oh quite - with the exception of that it certainly makes sense. Just a tad awkward stylistically. (Unfortunately old habits die hard - one of my past jobs includes a Translation Project manager so I end up being (unfairly) picky!) On a serious note, sounds like they're trying to make the best of a bad situation, and that doesn't sound like too much of a hardship in terms of COVID measures. Heck, I'd love to be on a French campsite right now!
  13. Is that one of Carl Tunnicliffe's Linkspan Model Kits? I did see the model below of Bretagne back in 2007 at the Warwick Model Boat Show but it isn't a true scale model. It is actually very difficult to get hold of accurate drawngs of modern vessels for reasons of commercial confidentiality and probably also because they are no longer 'drawings' as such but CAD files.
  14. Nos supers gérants, Régis et Renaud et leur équipe vous attendent au restau- rant-bar avec impatience. Les tables seront espacées, les plats à emporter disponibles si vous préférez déjeuner ou dîner chez vous. Venez comme vous êtes ! (mais en version masquée, au moins tant que vous n'êtes pas assis).
  15. Seashore

    2021 Timetables

    After the arrival of Galicia it looks like Pont-Aven is no longer visiting Portsmouth if I can correctly extrapolate the following: Fri 13:15 Plym - Fri 19:45 Ros Fri 22:00 Ros - Sat 10:00 Cork Sat 16:00 Cork - Sun 07:00 Ros Sun 09:45 Ros - Sun 14:00 Plym Sun 16:45 Plym - Mon 12:15 San Mon ??:?? San - Tue ??:?? Plym Tue 20:00 Plym - Wed 07:00 Ros Wed 09:00 Ros - Wed 13:15 Plym Wed ??:?? Plym - Thu ??:?? San Thu ??:?? San - Fri ??:?? Plym So Pont-Aven must be doing 2x Santander round trips back to the original Mon/Wed and Tue/Thur pattern of years past, 2x Plymouth and 1x Cork rotations so no time to go to Portsmouth based on the above, it just looks impossible. Maybe whilst the Roscoff to Plymouth and Cork routes are closed in the winter she'll sail up from Santander-Plymouth-Santander but be based in Portsmouth so can take on the St Malo route at weekends when she'd normally be pootling over to Cork.
  16. Seashore

    2021 Timetables

    Which other routes would fall into the category of “running at a financial loss”? I’d assume now that Le Havre is just duplication so it’ll go to allow for everything to be concentrated on Ouistreham? Maybe it’ll free up a linkspan for a competitor to come along. Sending Galicia for crew change in Cherbourg rather than Le Havre is probably an indication of they’re pulling out of Le Havre. Not just Covid but Brexit is coming next year. St Malo is busy in Summer but is it viable outside of mid May to mid Sept? Does that make it viable at all? No mention of further French route updates other than Le Havre and St Malo so do we have to assume Normandie Express is laid up or a goner for now? Assuming Etretat charter ends, Connemara goes to Roscoff to replace Kerry, Cotentin is presumably on her way back but a conversion to a passenger ship might be doubtful expense right now. I do wonder if we’ll see Cotentin on the Spain routes replacing Pelican and/or Cap Finistere? They might see PA + CF + GA + freighter as too much right now. Could it be that PA runs a midweek to St Malo and CF at the weekend? Yes, it’s all doom and gloom speculation but I think there’s a shock to come next week and they’ll pull the Covid card - valid or not - in order to dispose of the oldest ship in the fleet and the one that doesn’t have scrubbers.
  17. Welcome FN. Sorry I can't help with the drawings, but that model is simply outstanding. Would love to see any more you may have done.
  18. You could try contacting their press office in Portsmouth? I know they have all sorts of sources and media.
  19. nodwad

    2021 Timetables

    Afraid it is called market forces,ask yourself would you run a ferry if you were losing money?With this virus everyone are tightening there belts to reduce running costs.stay safe
  20. Calais Seaways ( 2 sailing per day ) and Kent are in freight only
  21. Regarding Plymouth to Roscoff winter closure they state in Twitter ", we are in extraordinary times and unfortunately, we are not currently in a position to operate services that normally run at a financial loss". Very sad if Ply-Ros becomes properly seasonal.
  22. hhvferry

    2021 Timetables

    If they are sticking with the basic layout the location of the truckers restaurant on the Stena ship would make an ok-sized a la carte.
  23. It's actually not too bad if it is Google which makes me think it's a human at work. Switch 'hidden' for 'masked' ('masqué' which is an easy mistake to make depending on the context) and it all makes sense. Ed.
  24. Do we know the actual date for the Galicia’s sea trials?
  25. Cabin-boy

    2021 Timetables

    Perhaps it's just on Deck C. I think there's a crew change every week otherwise it makes the schedules more complicated. That's why CF calls in at Roscoff every Monday morning. Ed.
  26. scarlton

    2021 Timetables

    1 week on, 1 off. Other countries vary massively. Depends on the nationality and company but for ferries, I think 2 on 2 off is common. But can be longer for some nationalities.
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