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  1. Since its been posted publicly elsewhere, the word is that the measurements of W.B. YEATS accommodation module are off by around 1 metre. 82cm to be exact! IF this is true (and I'd heard similar from a few different independent sources before it became public) Brittany Ferries will be quite concerned.
  2. What they don’t mention is the larger vessel is only chartered for 3 months! Estraden could end up back on her old route when Mistral comes back from charter to Stena. Newcastle - Ijmuiden needs more freight capacity actually, and I imagine the ending of the Rosyth operation will increase demand a bit too. Freight space is in demand in the North East and I believe DFDS are basically full every night these days. I don’t think the E-Flexer vessels would suit the passenger market though - there’s a lot of overnight “cruise” customers for example. The E-Flexer isn’t the only pas
  3. She looks REALLY nice inside. The yard have shared pictures on Facebook
  4. I’ve used a “Superfast Suite” on the cairnryan vessels for this purpose. Nice as a base camp and if anyone wants to lie down or get some peace and quiet they can do so. Also cheaper than paying for Stena plus for everyone in a group 👀.
  5. You could be on Megastar’s sister a year or two later by the sounds of things. Tallink are said to be looking into it at least. The cabins onboard the Kiel (not) sisters look very impressive.
  6. ICG hope W.B. YEATS will be gone by then anyway 😜. Lots of worrying rumours going around, but that happens with any delay to any vessel whether being built or just undergoing maintenance. Ulysses is presently being converted to an oil tanker or a troop ship if you believe some 😂. Alf Pollack is scheduled for delivery in October AFAIK. I believe there’s another pier or quay they can use somewhere nearby. Not sure where it is though 🤔. They’ve delivered 5 (yes FIVE) ro-ro’s in a single year before so they must have some way of juggling things around!
  7. My understanding was somewhere in between the two models mentioned by HHV and Jonno, so interested to know more. I thought it was a case of the cooperatives funding the vessels which would be built for a certain route and BAI chartered them at a set rate, but there was a certain degree of operational flexibility. My understanding of the Bf universe is vague to say the least though! There’s a surprising amount of capacity in the Far East, but that’s a lot to do with the sheer scale of the yards themselves. Demand for other tonnage isn’t what it was, hence why the likes of AVIC have s
  8. I'll do my best Ed. Its certainly would appear to be possible to shorten them, but 100m might be a bit much I would have thought as we are effectively talking about halving the original hull length of 215m (its a 27.8m wide hull as well remember). I'm no hydrodynamic expert though! The design is by Stena and Deltamarin. Theoretically they could go elsewhere I suppose, but I don't think they would want to - theres no official price been announced but word is its a VERY good price that Stena got from AVIC. By placing a large order economies of scale come in to play as well, and suppliers wi
  9. Yes. We could have 12 (or perhaps more). Of course the additional vessels, if the options are exercised, may be longer or shorter or to a totally different specification. We are starting to see just how flexible E-Flexer is! Stena have dreamed of having a standard ferry design for some time now, and it looks like the dream has finally come true. As for the Visentini's..... shh (though I admit I have gone off them a bit) ;). Mind you, a RoPax is a RoPax no matter how you dress it up, especially when more freight orientated like the Visentini series (or arguably even E-Flexer itself!).
  10. Press Release Stena signs order for two additional E-Flexer ships Europe’s leading ferry company has an option on a further four vessels Stena has decided to exercise its option to build a seventh and eighth E-Flexer vessel. The two vessels will be deployed within Stena Line’s route network with a planned delivery in 2022. Additionally, Stena RoRo has taken an option on the construction of a further four E-Flexer vessels also to be built at Avic Weihai Shipyard, China. “We are very pleased to have ordered two additional E-Flexer vessels from Stena RoRo. We foresee increasin
  11. Ireland to Spain in particular for both passengers and freight. As I say though, it’s very early days. A contact in the haulage industry has told me that with the rates they are charging things are unlikely to pick up though, as it doesn’t make financial sense for them to use the service. Still BF have some very ambitious targets for the route according to Spanish media, so perhaps things will change. It will be interesting to see how Connemara does to France in the winter months, especially with no Irish Ferries service from Rosslare this year. The choice will be between a Stena vi
  12. For further Cork expansion to happen I imagine Connemara’s loads would have to pick up considerably. Hearing some worrying numbers, but it’s early days.
  13. You mean river cruise vessels? I was referring to the likes of this http://arctech.fi/ships/arctech-lng-ferry/
  14. Was just reading on Facebook there, the current cruise ship order book stands at some 110 vessels! With 3 major orders announced in just the last 2 weeks, there isn’t a lot of yard space about! Seemingly that also rules out Fincantieri as well unless one of their smaller yards has the capability. One yard I didn’t mention was Arctech Helsinki, the former STX Helsinki. They’ve concentrated on icebreakers in recent years but have produced a cruiseferry concept design so would seem to be interested in the sector. Their Russian ownership has seen them struggle for orders though, but if th
  15. I’m not sure Stena ever actually stated BF would get number 3, it was assumed by the time she was due that she would be number 3 (I would need to check through what I have to see what exactly was said). Not having the car deck could work both ways though as passenger accommodation needs fitted out. I try to keep with with E-Flexer, but with the work taking place in China the info isn’t exactly plentiful! Looking at the renders released to date the Brittany ferries examples seem to have slightly different styling to the stern which isn’t as curved from memory (which makes sense if additional
  16. P&O charter much of their tonnage from other operators, not so much the passenger carrying vessels but they haven't ordered any of those in a while. ICG are getting a lot of finance from the EU for their new builds in the form of loans. Stena and DFDS are a different proposition entirely due to their scale and financial resources, but even they charter in tonnage. With regard to available yards which is something that was discussed earlier in the thread (this is from the top of my head, so may not be totally accurate) Brodosplit recently signed a contract with Fincantier
  17. The DFDS example will be bespoke to DFDS' requirements. Likewise the Brittany Ferries examples will be different to those for Stena, as we already know. The entire concept is designed to be flexible after all. At present it looks as though the entire series will have capacity for 1000 passengers and crew - for BF to get the required number of cabins without sacrificing the dedicated car deck they would need to remove public spaces which would be less than ideal (and reduce the passenger certificate I assume, unless the plan is for everyone to stay in their cabin for the entire crossin
  18. Does this not make her around 2 months behind? In the original timeline BF published keel laying was to take place in June. Theres a large Onorato-bound RoRo in the way at present though!
  19. Stena Line are introducing the MV Arrow tonight on a single round trip Monday to Friday to offer additional capacity on the Holyhead to Dublin route. She will layover at Holyhead during the day. Stena Adventurer will go to dry dock for refit from Tuesday 6th March until Tuesday 20th March 2018. During this period, cover will be provided by Stena Horizon in Stena Adventurer’s scheduled time slots. The Arrow will provide additional trips prior to Stena Adventurer’s refit period, starting 22nd February, from Holyhead. Arrow will sail ex Holyhead at 22:30hrs daily (excl. Sat) and from Dubl
  20. From what I understand about the events of 2005 the vast majority of crew members accepted redundancy. An element refused to leave their vessel. Of course it made a good story to sell newspapers at the time (who weren’t entirely upfront I understand, implying that Irish Ferries action came out of the blue when in fact consultations had been ongoing and as above the majority accepted redundancy), but the bottom line is Irish Ferries is a business and a successful one at that that still employs many British and Irish people. It’s been a while since I worked it out, but Irish Ferries didn’t ma
  21. At present it looks likely the 16th will be her first sailing, it’s been pushed back a few times. Those booked before this date have been offered compensation I believe. W.B. Yeats was originally to be delivered in May but is now not expected until June. Amongst other things (like welding everything together) there is around 600km of cabling to be installed! I believe some of the interior fittings are already in place and as someone said above, bridge equipment is already in. While it looks impressive that everything is coming together now so quickly this is the culmination of a lot o
  22. Possibly, it would seem a bit of a waste of a passenger vessel otherwise. Still nothing definite of course but I thought it was interesting and worth mentioning. May or may not be something in it.
  23. There’s a suggestion in this weeks “ferry shipping news” email (worth signing up for if you haven’t already at www.ferryshippingsummit.com ) Near the bottom that the first of the new builds may actually be deployed on the Ghent - Gothenburg route.
  24. I wouldn’t have thought the bow entrance to have been particularly narrow? is Pompey not getting a new linkspan. Will that alleviate the bow first height difference issue?
  25. From the top of my head the actual passenger capacity of the Eflexers is 923, with the balance of the 1000 being crew. No guarantee that will be the case with the BF example, or even the Stena ones tbh as Stena have indicated they can and will be fitted out differently according to their area of operation. They are definitely twin drive through loading (works are already planned in Belfast and Birkenhead to accommodate this I believe), with a separate deck for cars so far as I know, but there’s been no indication whether there are ramps between the main vehicle decks or not so far as I am aw
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