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  1. hhvferry

    General Discussions on Brexit

    Are we signatories to the Velsen treaty? No. Are we signatories to the Prum treaty? No. Did people voting to remain do so to have an "Italian based military police force deployed on your streets... and the removal of trial by jury ". No. Less Breitbart needed in the Google News stream I think.
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    You just need to make the best of it you can? To remove it would be to betray the original decision to spill it, foolhardy as it may seem in retrospect.
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    It would be good if we could try and stick to facts rather than far right crackpot myths about the EU if possible...
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    Yes, although if you look at the small print only on absolute peak Friday/Saturday nights so only a few days a year. Still, the mind boggles at both the demand which could support those sailings and how unpleasant the timings were. One other thing from that picture is that Bretagne is there because she's presumably just arrived from St Malo for which the arrival that summer was 0530, enabling the inbound ship to do a Cherbourg day trip, leaving at 0730. The summer of 2004 was when P&O and BF went for each others jugulars with P&O at Ouistreham and BF making the Val de Loire and Bretagne do Portsmouth/Cherbourg sailings. There was only one victor from the bloodbath with P&O completely cashing their French Western Channel chips after this season (although the Le Havre route staggered on for another year). There was a relatively late timetable change as v1 of the brochure has Bretagne doing all the Cherbourg sailings and being second ship at St Malo over the weekend with VDL doing a standard-ish St Malo roster. Then someone obviously had a bright idea and in edition 2 the two ships are shown as interlinked doing, from Monday mornings: Bretagne - Pmth-Cherbourg-Pmth-St Malo-Pmth-Cherbourg-Pmth-St Malo-Pmth-St Malo-Pmth-St Malo-Pmth-St Malo-Pmth VDL - St Malo-Pmth-Cherbourg-Pmth-St Malo-Pmth-Cherbourg-Pmth-St Malo-Pmth-St Malo-Pmth-St Malo-Pmth-St Malo P&O helpfully proved the fast ferry concept for BF who swiftly brought the Normandie Express in for the following year to effectively replace both the P&O fast craft, initially doing sailings to both Ouistreham and Cherbourg.
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    Going off topic (could do with an 'historic ferry discussions' bit of the forum?) but here are the relevant timetables. At peak Caen Express left at 0645 and Cherbourg Express at 0745 so presumably it's just before 7am one summer morning.
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    The year is 2004, P&O's forgotten fightback year (a dead cat bounce to coin a phrase...) The one on the left is P&O's 'Caen Express' (i.e. Max Mols) and on the right is what was for a year notionally 'Cherbourg Express' (i.e. Express).
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    St Nazaire to Gijon

    Probably not really what they need... I could see them making a move for Le Rif if they didn't view it as a backward move having got rid of her sister almost a decade ago. They've been using inferior/older tonnage on charter this summer and she's ideal and well proven on the Tangier route.
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    St Nazaire to Gijon

    Balearia have two new Visentinis on order and have not given any indication their existing ones are going anywhere. In fact the Visemar I, Sicilia and Napoles have all been bought from their charterers recently. On the other hand... the new Canaries route needs two ships as well. The announced ships so far for LNG conversion are Napoles, Sicilia, Bahama Mama and Martin i Soler; it won't be the last two on the Gijon route so it'd most likely be the ex-TTT/Stena pair as I also doubt they'd put the new ships on the route. I would guess Visemar may be the fifth ship for conversion now she is owned rather than chartered. The Napoles has been doing Algeciras-Tangier this summer for which she is not exactly ideal so if they are to fulfil all their obligations and maintain existing services I imagine they'll look to get at least one other new ship before next summer.
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    Jeez I'm glad no-one placed a bus talking (misleadingly, of course) about money at the heart of their campaign then.
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    So because infrastructure projects, particularly in the UK for myriad reasons none to do with the EU, take time to actually get going the EU funding of them can somehow be dismissed?
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    Is the £40bn the so-called 'divorce bill'? Given the fall in tax take by relatively poorer economic performance and companies redirecting their legal/tax bases back into the EU (which will be even worse without any deal) actual net savings on EU exit are questionable. And again, this isn't money which goes into some giant Brussels slush fund. It's used to fund projects across the EU, many of them in deprived areas and many of them in the UK. If we stopped making payments or didn't agree to pay commitments we've made then, apart from being disastrous and unprecedented diplomatically, the UK would have to be pick up all the funding for ongoing EU-funded projects in this country.
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    Ferry on fire in Batic Sea

    Don't think so, AFAIK the only one of this class which has been to the UK is the Corragio when covering for Stena at Killingholme.
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    I can hear the sound of jaws hitting the floor across the country. Rees-Mogg would I expect be slaughtered in a General Election so in a perverse way I would be happy for the Conservatives to make him leader. Although the prospect of Corbyn in charge is only incrementally better. However it would be better to have someone fighting for the poor and being, sort of, honest about it, than someone fighting for privilege and dressing it up as working for the many or worse, blowing dog whistles left, right and centre and appealing to nationalism.
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    They are put in place by the agreement and consent of our elected representatives. It's a bit of a Brexit red herring to complain that they are "unelected" in my view, you can't have direct election to every post in the EU. We have elections to the European Parliament and elections nationally and the EU leadership in its various forms springs from the power we delegate to people we put into power there.
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    General Discussions on Brexit

    Worth remembering that "the EU" (which terms makes it look like a faceless monolith) is a ultimately just a collection of member states so whilst most stuff until now has been left to the negotiators to deal with, following pretty good agreement on broad boundaries, it all ultimately needs signing off at a country level and that will be interesting given how fractious it's been trying to get anything sorted in this country. Just like the UK disrupted things for years to (mostly succesfully) get our own way, other countries may try to take advantage of the opportunity to push things in ways which could incrementally favour them. But that's how these things work - all the member states getting mutual benefits doesn't mean you can't and shouldn't work in ways that favour your country, without being destructive.
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