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  1. hhvferry

    Sister ships, definition..

    This is what I was thinking of, actually from Sealink OnLine edition 1 in 1991 - Keeping it on topic, here's another picture of the Felicity and her sister in Durres this summer.
  2. hhvferry

    Sister ships, definition..

    They were identical as delivered but the '03 Britannica must set a record, even for Stena, for the speed with which her original on board arrangements were changed. Because Stena RoRo had pinned the yard down so much on price the contract specified that they weren't able to change anything to the spec of fitout after the order was placed. After being ordered the ship was allocated to Stena Line BV for Harwich and they had their own ideas. So the yard completed her as agreed and on the delivery voyage workmen set about ripping her apart as part of a USD2m pre-service refit.
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    Sister ships, definition..

    And Felicity was... the name of the cat of someone who wrote in suggesting it (without checking the edition of Linkspan this was mentioned in I want to believe that the lady was moved to write in protest at the idea of Fandango).
  4. hhvferry

    Other newbuild/arrivals

    They're 15 years old so not entirely spring chickens - and Gotlandsbolaget/Destination Gotland have received pairs of new car ferries in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 00s and now 2010s (they didn't in the '90s as they lost the Gotland contract 1988-1998) so their time is due if the company continues historical trends. They probably wouldn't have been so quick however had they not signed up to a new contract from up to 2027 which required reduced emissions and their tender to achieve this was to go down an LNG route; although the new ship was ordered before this contract was signed I imagine the company was under massive political pressure to make a move to reduce Gotland ferry emissions which have apparently trebled since 1990.
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    Other newbuild/arrivals

    Yes the Felicity is now with Ventouris Ferries and runs to Albania where this year she ran in opposition to her sister (see Two Gotlanders in Durres). The current Visby and Gotland were built, again by GSI (which was considered a very adventurous order at the time) in 2003. The contract was placed in 1999 so the company are familiar with this sort of prolonged process. Back then the new sisters represented a complete and fundamental change in operations from the two existing conventional ships - the comparatively slow ex-Felicity and ex-Sally Star - so it was a juggling act working out when to make the schedule changes they would bring in. In contrast the pair now building are very similarly sized to the 2003 ships, offering modest increments in pax capacity and lane metres. It's a good guessing game to have where the current pair will end up as they are theoretically attractive to a whole host of operators and should achieve a good price, assuming build quality and mechanical quality are OK for what were effectively reference ships at the time. They'll potentially need a bit of work to make them suitable for most operators as they are unabashed day ships with a handful of cabins and hundreds upon hundreds of reclining seats. The list price for the 2003 pair was SEK525m each (around USD 75m). It's difficult to compare like with like but I'll do it anyway - Mont St Michel also of 2003 is dimensionally a bit smaller and completed to a much higher standard but her price was about USD 125m, and that at a supposed bargain basement European yard.
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    Other newbuild/arrivals

    I'd be surprised if Visborg or Thjelvar were the final names for these two - they tend to be holding or secondary names and will probably become Visby and Gotland when they get to Sweden (although it is a bit strange to have a formal naming ceremony). They are monstrously late but I think Destination Gotland were so ecstatic with the price that they factored potential late delivery into their thinking - their existing pair of ro-paxes can carry on as is for a long while yet if needed (and there has been no report of a sale being firmed up for them). GSI are also churning out the Algerie Ferries one, two for DFDS plus four for Moby and GNV which appear to be super-secret as there hasn't even been a concept image of them out there as far as I can tell. Algerie Ferries hopefully have got some experienced project managers in place as they don't have the same sort of experience in this field as other operators and nor do they necessarily have the same sort of operational flexibility as the intent is/was that this ship shuffles their fleet, creates a reserve/seasonal ship in the form of the Tariq Ibn Ziyad and means they don't have to keep chartering the Elyros every summer. Here's Visborg out and about - her funnel became red in the end after months of teasing she might break with tradition The 'G' looks a bit puny though.
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    Sister ships, definition..

    They weren't totally structurally the same as rebuilt, they had a few differences (e.g. some variances in the external staircases adjacent to the aft bar) but they were certainly close enough to count as twins. Ships like Hengist/Horsa compared to Senlac were almost indistinguishable externally if you ignored liveries but had some substantial differences on board but are still twins in my book. But once you start tweaking things that have visual significance does that matter more than them being divergent on board? e.g. the Prinsessan Desiree (current Aqua Solution) and Prinsessan Christina (Bohus) were barely different apart from the funnel/mast arrangement which is prominent but arguably trivial in some ways. Where does one draw the line? It is, perhaps, impossible to answer
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    BF Contact for a ship visit

    There aren't really any real security risks from having passengers on the bridge, but troups of them shuffling through having paid for the honour must surely be a distraction you don't really want too often whilst crossing the Channel. I think BF have it about right, occasional groups get up there and the odd passenger who is favourably looked upon.
  9. hhvferry

    HONFLEUR - Arriving June 2019

    The Chantilly linked to her namesake town by having a charming but slightly underwhelming display case full of local lace products. Do we have any idea yet what links they'll make to town of Honfleur in the decor on the new ship? (Are we back on track yet?)
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    HONFLEUR - Arriving June 2019

    To be fair they needed the Chantilly for a few more years so didn't have much choice. And the Compiegne survived for another three decades so there was some life in the old girl yet.
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    HONFLEUR - Arriving June 2019

    Yes, if the visor swings up high enough (and is in itself large enough) it doesn't impede twin level freight loading - again this is something the Copenhagen and Berlin offer. The Stena Challenger's always struck me as huge both in size and in the height it had to swing through to give clearance. A bit o/t I suppose (sorry Gareth) but any excuse for a POB picture
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    HONFLEUR - Arriving June 2019

    Berlin and Copenhagen have been delivered with visors in the past couple of years - it's a niche solution nowadays but not a forbidden one as such.
  13. hhvferry

    BF Confirm Charter of 'E-Flexer'

    That funnel isn't starting to look any better in real life
  14. The most commercial complex ships FSG built before WBY were the four for BC Ferries and they were all delivered on time with times of typically eight or nine months between keel laying and delivery.
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    New Look Revealed

    Wawel doesn't have bow art either? But yes the Polferries ships with art don't look great. I agree about the P&O cruises livery - it's crass and has genuinely poor design elements. It ditches a rather classy, understated historic identity and the bow stuff is just embarrassing. I can only assume P&O's brand message is that they aren't looking for either aesthetes or people who enjoy subtlety.
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