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  1. As an aside I recall the Tor ships did have small “bow” doors but located low down on each side just back from the bow. However back on topic does anyone know how often the Newcastle ships used their bow doors?
  2. Has this now changed on the Q&A page? It now says that there will be commodore cabins but no commodore lounge.
  3. What people say and do are often two different things! However there is no doubt that opinion is changing and that can be the first stage to changing behaviour.
  4. Depends. If future governments force airlines to incorporate the true (environmental) cost of flying into their fares then it will be game on again for the ferry companies. In the meantime... Absolutely, a high quality ferry service underpinned by freight shows that even now an alternative to flying can be offered. Perhaps we all need to adjust our expectations as well in terms of where we expect to go and how long it should take us to get there. The journey really should be part of the holiday. Do we all need to remember this next time we vote?
  5. Lovely bit of ferry history. £5 in the 60’s must be around £70-£80 in today’s money? If so that seems more than competitive by today’s standards, and a free lavish feast for the ladies too! I really hadn’t realised that Stena had any interest in UK ferries in the 1960’s either. Very informative.
  6. Fully agree with you on this! As you say the journey is part of the holiday and not enough is made of this, perhaps ferry company marketing needs to focus on it more. The only way to shake the image problem will be if more people try ferries for themselves. Of course the only way that will happen is if they are forced so perhaps we need more Icelandic volcanoes cancelling flights?!
  7. They are about to start a new life on the North Sea under DFDS.
  8. You’re right that there was no shortage of summer demand for the Tor sisters in the early days. I remember my parents car being bounced aboard in an attempt to cram the last of the cars onto the car deck. The ships seemed to heave with people however they were also marketed to the masses. The decor was bright and bold, I seem to remember a lot of orange and bold murals in the huge cafeteria, a lot of the accommodation was in couchettes and economy cabins and there were often lots of students recumbent on the stairs. As the years went by the accommodation became more comfortable and expensive, the cafe was split into more expensive and exclusive areas and the marketing more specifically aimed at an older wealthier demographic. The numbers onboard seemed to fall too. I don’t recall a single crossing where the ship was full in the late 80’s or 90’s, even expensive air travel offered a more convenient and affordable alternative. There is no doubt that the quality of offering was good but the prices were unaffordable by many. It was a long time coming but the death of those routes was inevitable. As you say even at the peak of demand not enough people wanted to use the North Sea in winter, who wants to pay that much to be sea sick for 24 hours! I think the hope now must be that the likes of DFDS can rework the formula for longer crossings and at a time of questioning the environmental impact of flying start appealing to the masses again.
  9. Equally let’s not forget that Tor Line got into financial trouble quite quickly after setting the bar so high. At least the current RoPax vessels provide a sound financial base for ferries even if they lack the glamour of the Tor ships. I’m really hoping that the refurbishment of the Moby Aki and Wonder pull off the Brittany Ferries trick of glamour and practicality. It would be nice to think that their time has come and that people will see the joy that travelling that bit slower but better brings us.
  10. Just been enjoying hhvferry’s excellent post on the Aki and associated Superstar. A very interesting read. Many thanks. http://hhvferry.com/blog/?tag=moby-aki
  11. Reckon it’ll take a couple of coats to paint over the old livery though. Great news for the route, though I had been hoping for a new build. That said this looks like a commercially sustainable option.
  12. I was struggling with the logic of how more sailings were going to reduce a problem caused by border checks but I suppose the idea is to draw freight away from the Dover routes where there is a physical land limit on expanding customs checks, to ports with more capacity? Not sure what would stop DFDS from simply moving tonnage away from Dover to another port ( as Dover will not be able to handle the freight the ships have the capacity for for a while) and be paid handsomely for it?
  13. http://UK to spend £108m on no-deal ferries http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46704522 The BBC currently seem to be describing DFDS as Dutch in the article, a bit like their Swiss rivals Stena! This charter just raises so many political issues of course but more importantly where will the available tonnage come from? Are the Government just paying for Pelican to work harder or will we see new tonnage?
  14. Discuss! UK to spend £108m on no-deal ferries http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46704522
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