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Northy

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  1. I have to say it all looks very impressive. I can see why Stena went to China for these ships.
  2. As an aside I recall the Tor ships did have small “bow” doors but located low down on each side just back from the bow. However back on topic does anyone know how often the Newcastle ships used their bow doors?
  3. Has this now changed on the Q&A page? It now says that there will be commodore cabins but no commodore lounge.
  4. What people say and do are often two different things! However there is no doubt that opinion is changing and that can be the first stage to changing behaviour.
  5. Depends. If future governments force airlines to incorporate the true (environmental) cost of flying into their fares then it will be game on again for the ferry companies. In the meantime... Absolutely, a high quality ferry service underpinned by freight shows that even now an alternative to flying can be offered. Perhaps we all need to adjust our expectations as well in terms of where we expect to go and how long it should take us to get there. The journey really should be part of the holiday. Do we all need to remember this next time we vote?
  6. Lovely bit of ferry history. £5 in the 60’s must be around £70-£80 in today’s money? If so that seems more than competitive by today’s standards, and a free lavish feast for the ladies too! I really hadn’t realised that Stena had any interest in UK ferries in the 1960’s either. Very informative.
  7. Fully agree with you on this! As you say the journey is part of the holiday and not enough is made of this, perhaps ferry company marketing needs to focus on it more. The only way to shake the image problem will be if more people try ferries for themselves. Of course the only way that will happen is if they are forced so perhaps we need more Icelandic volcanoes cancelling flights?!
  8. They are about to start a new life on the North Sea under DFDS.
  9. You’re right that there was no shortage of summer demand for the Tor sisters in the early days. I remember my parents car being bounced aboard in an attempt to cram the last of the cars onto the car deck. The ships seemed to heave with people however they were also marketed to the masses. The decor was bright and bold, I seem to remember a lot of orange and bold murals in the huge cafeteria, a lot of the accommodation was in couchettes and economy cabins and there were often lots of students recumbent on the stairs. As the years went by the accommodation became more comfortable and expensive,
  10. Equally let’s not forget that Tor Line got into financial trouble quite quickly after setting the bar so high. At least the current RoPax vessels provide a sound financial base for ferries even if they lack the glamour of the Tor ships. I’m really hoping that the refurbishment of the Moby Aki and Wonder pull off the Brittany Ferries trick of glamour and practicality. It would be nice to think that their time has come and that people will see the joy that travelling that bit slower but better brings us.
  11. Just been enjoying hhvferry’s excellent post on the Aki and associated Superstar. A very interesting read. Many thanks. http://hhvferry.com/blog/?tag=moby-aki
  12. Reckon it’ll take a couple of coats to paint over the old livery though. Great news for the route, though I had been hoping for a new build. That said this looks like a commercially sustainable option.
  13. I was struggling with the logic of how more sailings were going to reduce a problem caused by border checks but I suppose the idea is to draw freight away from the Dover routes where there is a physical land limit on expanding customs checks, to ports with more capacity? Not sure what would stop DFDS from simply moving tonnage away from Dover to another port ( as Dover will not be able to handle the freight the ships have the capacity for for a while) and be paid handsomely for it?
  14. http://UK to spend £108m on no-deal ferries http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46704522 The BBC currently seem to be describing DFDS as Dutch in the article, a bit like their Swiss rivals Stena! This charter just raises so many political issues of course but more importantly where will the available tonnage come from? Are the Government just paying for Pelican to work harder or will we see new tonnage?
  15. Discuss! UK to spend £108m on no-deal ferries http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46704522
  16. Yes, not much of a bulb though is it? Again the AIDAPrima’s bow was designed with efficiency at slower speeds in mind, though I believe she had a whole range of pioneering efficiency measures fitted too. I think we can expect to see far more of these sorts of features in future and with shipping generally heading towards bigger though slower ships will this mean far fewer bulbous bows? Time will tell what other efficiency measures the DFDS ships will have, I won’t be surprised if their operating speed is quite slow though, a far cry from the Tor sisters.
  17. Just catching up with this news, great to see DFDS finally working out a policy of how to spend their cash that doesn’t involve purchasing and stripping out other companies. I agree the design is no looker but it does show how serious DFDS are to cut their costs and carve out a profit in such a low margin competitive market. The lack of bulbous bow on a relatively smallish (though quite big for DFDS) design would indicate that this vessel is built for slow steaming and fuel economy. Once again DFDS displays their hard nosed business side rather than the romance of travel favoured in the l
  18. I can only comment about how I found her on the North Sea, which was very comfortable. She has great length which helped her if pushing into heavy seas and with the accommodation being at the front and engines at the back she is quiet and vibration free. I know the route across Biscay has a lot more swell though and I don’t know how she copes in those conditions.
  19. Amused to hear today on From Our Own Correspondent on Radio 4 that what sounds like Moby Dada is being used to house Spanish police in Barcelona. The piece pointed out the natural comedy of the force being accommodated in a ship resplendent with Daffy Duck and other Looney Tunes characters.
  20. Great to see that P&O are looking after these two. They were quite a bold addition to the North Sea when introduced and I shall miss them almost as much as I miss the Tor sisters when they finally go. Here's to many more years!
  21. I agree. There is an indented section in the middle which I felt would be better if painted black or dark blue to give an illusion of separation. However I'm sure we will get used to it in time. The best place to be is on-board, then what the funnel looks like really doesn't matter!
  22. Does anyone know why Superstar is now heading to Italy? Ok forget that comment. For some reason the second page of this thread wasn't showing when I posted it! All explained now.
  23. Agreed, there has been a natural long term decline in passengers and the ability to make profit. The exception has been the cruise and "true" cruise ferry experience. This is not a company afraid of investment, their freight tonnage reflects this, it is a company managing long term withdrawal or at least refocusing from the long distance pax market. DFDS has been criticised for its tendency to buy then shut routes but the fact remains that it is a profitable company. If it had not changed the company focus from the mid 90's it would be in trouble by now.
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