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  1. A really zealous gendarme will also have noticed that after Brexit the GB sign in the circle of stars on rear number plates will no longer serve as the required nationality indicator. The latest UK govt advice is that you must have the old-fashioned white disc as well. 

    Good news for Halfords at least.

  2. On 09/08/2019 at 21:16, Gardian said:

    Around here, they say that the Dutch bring their own spuds with them ........... and take back the peelings !!


    Hence the joke that NL stands for ‘Nur Limonade’ (only lemonade in German). That’s all they buy locally, having brought everything else with them. 

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  3. This is a legacy of the three engine fires on the ‘W’ class. Apparently the ships will not run in winds stronger than 20 knots (gusts to 25 knots), presumably because that would involve the engines working harder, with an increased fire risk. Wightlink were reported as looking at technical fixes that would solve the problem, but appear not to have found any.

    If the restriction is permanent, it will not do anything to improve the viability of the Yarmouth-Lymington route. I for one will not be using the route if my plans are liable to be upset by what is no more than a strong breeze, and in the windy periods of the year there will be more cancellations than crossings. Good news for Red Funnel.

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  4. 1 hour ago, BigDW1946 said:

    Geezer, ever tried SeaBands; these wrist bands have a tiny plastic stud that is positioned over an acupuncture point on the wrist. I'm a good sailor but was given a complimentary pairs on a sponsored Beaujolais Run. My daughter tried them on one of her trips and swears they work. I think Boots and others sell them. 

    I’ve often worn these. I have my doubts as to whether they work, but if you’re as bad a sailor as I am you try anything. The problem is of course that you can’t tell how awful you would have felt if you hadn’t been wearing them.

    i still need to follow the usual strategies of lying in a darkened cabin dosed up with Stugeron, or sitting on a windy deck trying to watch the horizon.

    i have friends with greater intestinal fortitude who tell me mal de mer is all in the mind, which is of course a great help.

  5. 16 minutes ago, Paully said:

    Surely it must be easier to go via Red Funnel and Southampton??

    Depends partly where you want to go - obviously if you are travelling to the West Country you would tend to choose Southampton, and for Chichester Portsmouth would be better. For journeys to the Midlands and North via the A34 both are ok. For London it depends which part of the city you’re aiming for - I find the A3 a quicker way in to central parts than the M3.

    Another consideration is that it is usually much quicker to get through Portsmouth to the motorway than it is from Southampton, whose traffic congestion seems to get worse all the time, whether you’re going through the centre or via the western docks.

    As for unloading problems, I agree that the new Wightlink arrangements are not satisfactory, and particularly the merging procedure at Gunwharf is quite scary. But the problems at Red Funnel’s Southampton terminal are worse, and it can take a very long time to get out on to the main road. There was a comprehensive road improvement there a year or so back and it is surprising that the opportunity was not taken to put in lights at the terminal exit. As it is, Red Funnel only avoid delays because they have a half-hour turnaround, unlike Wightlink’s 20ish minutes.


  6. 1 hour ago, Khaines said:

    Regarding Bournemouth’s pier, the silt used to be cleared regularly in the summer.  It is only in the past eight years or so the problem has got progressively worse.  I have never seen the pier in such a state as the photos above.  Swanage managed to undergo a large refurbishment programme at large cost and Waverley calls there.  The situation in Bournemouth is the powers that be prefer to spend money elsewhere on stuff while neglecting some of our most important heritage.  When Dorset Cruises operated daytrips to Swanage and Brownsea from Bournemouth they had the Shockwave fast boat they used for high speed trips round the bay, and remember one bloke who worked for the company saying they used it to blast silt and keep it under control.  Since they lost the contract to operate the pier pleasure trips this no longer happens.   

    The area around the pier is now quite silted, yes, but the pier as a whole has tended to be neglected on the western side.  The eastern side is in use for boats, but only boats I see using it is during the air festival when we have naval ships out in the bay.  The pier is used for tender boats carrying people to and from them.   A friend of mine on Facebook is a Lib Dem councillor in Christchurch, and because we are now Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch I am going to try and have a bit of a rant about that, I posted those pictures on Facebook so she will have seen them.  

    Miss Waverley calling here, always really enjoyed seeing her come in, even on days I wasn’t travelling on her.  I plan to take trips on her in other parts of the country she calls at, possibly going out to see the Thames forts. 

    Yes, I’d recommend the Thames trips, normally done in October, so sometimes a need to wrap up well. They lack the splendid coastal scenery of the IOW or the Jurassic Coast (indeed sometimes you can hardly see the coast at all) but fascinating nonetheless. A particular surprise was the Blackwater estuary, where we were supposed to be heading after our ill-fated Clacton call - an extensive and very deep estuary which very few people seem to know about.

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  7. So far so good, but there’s still going to be much fundraising needed. If all those who normally take a trip on the ship would this year give a donation equivalent to the fare that would help a great deal.

    Let’s hope that Waverley will be able to come down south in September next year to carry out her normal programme based on Weymouth, Southampton and Portsmouth. The inability to call at Bournemouth is a serious blow, given its large number of holidaymakers and wide catchment area. As I understand it, the problem is not just the state of the pier but that silting up has severely limited the states of the tide at which berthing would be possible.

    Maintaining elderly piers in a fit state to take such a large vessel is always going to be problematical; it’s hard to justify spending money to permit berthing which is only going to take place a handful of times a year. Many piers where Waverley used to call are now closed to it, eg Sandown and Worthing. Last autumn, I was on board the ship when we tried to berth at Clacton, where the pier looks in an even more decrepit state than Bournemouth’s. One of the bollards to which the ship was attached came away, as did part of the pier. The call had to be aborted. It is hard to see where the money to repair such piers is going to come from. The benefit to the tourist industry of Waverley’s operations is clear, but that doesn’t translate into funds for maintenance.



  8. Another island for completists is Chausey, which is geographically though not politically a ‘Channel Island’. It’s easily accessible from Granville, giving a very enjoyable day out, with a restaurant and shop and some nice beaches. A few people live there all year in some charming cottages. It’s surrounded by a huge area of dangerous reefs which are exposed at low tide, so some similarities with ‘our’ islands further north.

    Of course it might be argued that the Isle of Wight is also a ‘Channel Island’, but the only people who really believe that are companies trying to extort extra charges when asked to deliver here.

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  9. I agree that there is much to like about Victoria of Wight. Certainly a great improvement internally on St Clare, which has always struck me as resembling a floating motorway service station. And externally VoW makes a fine sight as it proceeds in stately fashion across the Solent. There is a bit of a ‘big ship’ feel about it.

    The attractive forward-facing sloping windows do have one drawback, though. At night they reflect the bright jazzy carpet, so it’s very difficult to see anything outside.

    In an ideal world, where ferries were run to meet the needs of the public rather than to fill the pockets of the owners, Wightlink would now be ordering one if not two sister ships. As it is, the policy is obviously to reduce capacity, so, as has been pointed out, we are less likely to get special offers; and there will be an incentive to reduce the crossings for which Multilink tickets can be used.

    The long gaps in the service are also a pain, but the summer timetable does contain a modest piece of good news (once you have managed to decode the complicated key): on Mondays, Tuesdays, Saturdays and Sundays, there is now a ferry from Gunwharf at 0100. This restores the possibility of an evening out in London and returning the same day which we lost when Wightlink took the axe to the evening services about ten years ago. But only on those days, and only in summer!

  10. Thanks for the info - not sure that the ‘ease and joy’ of ferry travel is a description that those of us who rely on ferries for our everyday travels would recognise (I see Wightlink have cancelled again this morning). 

    But in the spirit of the offer I will certainly be applying in the hope of a trip to some attractive Scottish island or the IoM.

  11. I used them on Thursday too. The gates were held  open while the stream of arriving Wightlink passengers went through. On my return journey later in the evening I was met by a closed gate and was asked by the gatekeeper ‘Wightlink’?, to which I responded yes (truthfully, as it happens) and was let through.

    I have yet to explore what happens in other situations eg when you leave the platforms, try to use the station toilets only to find that they are out of action (a very common state of affairs) and need to return through the barrier to use the Wightlink toilets.

    Incidentally, although Wightlink have placed a notice at the entrance to their ramp to the effect that their passengers can go through the barriers, there is no such notice where it is more needed, on the ‘landward’ side of the barrier, so that those unfamiliar with the layout do not waste time looking for an alternative route to the ferry avoiding the barrier.

  12. I saw something of the cleaning operation at Portsmouth when I took a day trip to St Malo a month ago. It looked pretty rushed and chaotic, not helped by the presence of passengers wandering round to see if their cabin was ready. I did wonder how they would cope with anything like a fully-loaded ship. Having said that, and mindful of the ongoing discussions on this site, I could not find fault with my cabin.

    Like Yann, I had a splendid trip. First time on Pont Aven, and I was really impressed, and remarkable value for money. Quite lightly loaded, though not as eerily empty as it apparently was for Yann.

    The only downside was that the link span was jammed on arrival at St Malo; this affected foot passengers like me as well as the tide was apparently too high for the passenger gangway to be used. After 90 minutes it was decided that the gangway could be used after all so we escaped. The delay did not matter too much for me, but those with train connections were not happy. I don’t know how much longer the vehicles had to wait - attempts were being made to lift the linkspan manually, but these were not successful. Perhaps they had to wait for the tide to align the ship and ramp naturally. Anyway, when I returned in the evening the problem had obviously been solved.

  13. On 03/01/2019 at 23:35, Hermit said:


    1 hour ago, adicat said:

    Why is VOW out of service again? Should be a 2 ship operation even with reductions.

    The first message, on Friday, attributed the temporary timetable to the need ‘to complete trials on a new engine on board one of our ships’. By Monday the reason was ‘due to one of our ships delayed return from annual refit’, which points the finger away from VoW. Clear as mud.

    Even with the service reduction, the 12 o’clock sailing from Gunwharf was far from full - no need to use the surviving mezzanine deck.







  14. On 13/01/2019 at 15:54, Hermit said:

    I wonder whether they have removed the sliding doors that gave access to the now-removed mezzanine deck and plated over the gaps, or simply left the doors as non-functioning?

    To answer my own query, the doors are gone and have been replaced by steel panels. There are still some relics of the previous mezzanine deck - on the stairways, there is at least one surviving but inoperative door push button, and there remains a ‘stairway to passenger lounges’ sign on the upper wall of the deck.

    The only other modification I noticed, which has already been mentioned, was the addition of plates for the new docking system. These are asymmetric, and block off the view from a couple of bays each side. They have been finished tidily with new panelling.

     St Faith is in the unaccustomed position of being sole ship this afternoon under the reduced timetable this week, but future opportunities to travel on her will be more limited: the era of crossing on the saints, which has been part of islanders’ lives for so long, is coming to an end.

  15. On 03/01/2019 at 23:35, Hermit said:

    It is only when you try to book that you discover that there will only be the two ships operating (and some of their sailings are fully booked). Not only is there no indication on the Service Status page that the published service is not being run, but those of us who subscribe to the text alerts of changes to the timetable have not received any. It looks very much as though the policy is not to say anything and hope that no one notices.

    This sort of thing also makes me wonder about how the service reliability statistics are being calculated - the claimed 99.7% figure for Portsmouth - Fishbourne is hard to believe. When is a cancellation not a cancellation?

    Mind you, Wightlink may not be the only people suspected of misleading behaviour. On another forum Red Funnel are also accused of claiming that service status was ‘good’ when there were actually substantial delays.


    I asked Wightlink why there were no notifications of the Friday cancellations and they have now apologised for the omission. The cancellations the following week while St Faith was getting back from Falmouth were publicised in the normal way, so let’s hope the Friday silence was a one-off.

  16. My guess is that politics came into these decisions. Ministers would have thought it would be embarrassing if the contracts were given entirely to non-UK operators, French and Danish. Hardly looks like ‘taking back control’. They would have been desperate to find some UK operator -any UK operator - to participate. But of course the fact that Seaborne looks such an implausible operator has actually caused them more embarrassment than ever.

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  17. 3 hours ago, eagleeye said:

    Timetable has been changed for mon and tues so she is off the run..any ideas what work was done as she was there quite a while ...

    This time they have put a warning of the timetable change and also notified subscribers to the travel alerts. Still not good news for anyone affected but at least we know where we are.

  18. It is only when you try to book that you discover that there will only be the two ships operating (and some of their sailings are fully booked). Not only is there no indication on the Service Status page that the published service is not being run, but those of us who subscribe to the text alerts of changes to the timetable have not received any. It looks very much as though the policy is not to say anything and hope that no one notices.

    This sort of thing also makes me wonder about how the service reliability statistics are being calculated - the claimed 99.7% figure for Portsmouth - Fishbourne is hard to believe. When is a cancellation not a cancellation?

    Mind you, Wightlink may not be the only people suspected of misleading behaviour. On another forum Red Funnel are also accused of claiming that service status was ‘good’ when there were actually substantial delays.


  19. 6 hours ago, bekkia said:

    But why would only one ship have the issue? And the engine that had the issue this time had very few operating hours on it.

    Of course we don't actually know that the engine was the source of the fire this time. Just that it was a fire in the engine room.

    They are running a foot passenger service this morning using a charter vessel. Anyone know what vessel is being used?

    It’s a catamaran CRC Gladiator, which turns out to be ex-Scoot 1 from our old friends Scoot Ferries.

    Since it only takes 12 passengers it’s hardly an adequate replacement for a W class. But then again, since it will by definition only be running in rough conditions, it will presumably only be the hardiest commuters who will want to take it.

    It’s Lymington stop is at Town Quay, so not ideal for anyone wanting a train connection.



  20. Wightlink have cancelled sailings between Lymington and Yarmouth because of an engine-room fire onboard Wight Sky on the berth at Lymington. All crew and passengers have been safely evacuated.

    This is the third ‘W’ Class fire in little over a year, which is worrying.

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  21. There is now a message on the Wightlink website to warn that the barriers have been installed, but that Wightlink customers and visitors are not required to show a ticket to pass through. Any problems tell the Wightlink ticket office.

    So it looks as though Wightlink have accepted the situation, though the extent to which the barriers will be manned or left open remains to be seen. Next time I have time to kill between ferry and train I will see whether I’m allowed through to visit the station cafe (cheaper and with a better range than the Costa in the Wightlink terminal).

    As has been suggested, this looks more like a box-ticking exercise for the franchisee than an effective revenue-protection measure.

  22. 5 hours ago, Millsy said:

    Gateline staff, both Wightlink and railway, are quite used to reading all forms of ticketing from normal RSP ticket stock to smartphone screens. All that would be required is that landward side tickets issued from machines were on standard RSP stock and they'd be read by the barriers and as a matter of course by Wightlink staff who see them all the time anyway. It is not a problem - only the companies have made it one.

    It will be interesting to see what (if any) agreement they can come to. But it’s asking a lot to expect Wightlink to accept any additional check being carried out by a third party (SWR) on their passengers who are not rail passengers. No doubt one of the things their lawyers will look at is whether there would be any legal basis for this. Nor will they want to have to take on more staff to man the barrier themselves, which would be in addition to those checking and counting in their terminal. All this to deal with a purely SWR problem, for which other remedies are available.

  23. You can indeed claim delay repay on a through ticket from mainland stations to island stations. I have done it several times, including occasions when the delay arriving at the Harbour was not long enough to qualify but the consequential delay arriving at Ryde St Johns was.

    The snag is that for frequent travellers the through tickets (even advance ones) normally work out more expensive than using  a Wightlink multilink ticket for the ferry and buying  separate rail tickets for the island and mainland legs. So delay repay doesn’t apply to the overall journey.

    As you say, it should be in SWRs interest  to maintain connections, but I’ve not seen much evidence that this affects their behaviour in practice. I remember once remonstrating with a guard at Portsmouth and Southsea who was chatting to a colleague rather than waving our late running train off. It wouldn’t matter if we missed the ferry, he said, because they run ‘every ten minutes’. If only.....

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