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  1. And will it be the extra ship be of Cruise Ferry or 'economie' standard? In terms of pricing there often isn't much difference usually around £30 difference between the 16.30 from Caen and the 17.00/17.30 from Le Havre. In my case coming from either the Vendee or Brittany theres no point driving the extra mileage to Le Havre, and travelling on an inferior vessel just to save £30. On some occasions the Le Havre route and Caen are the exact same price, surely an argument that 'economie' is a cover for the ship rather than anything else
  2. I'd say Stena Fantasia & Seafrance Cezanne were definitely sister ships. They had different interiors reflecting their sister companies Sealink/Stena Line & SNAT but structurally i believe they were identical. I think they were actually Triplets but the 3rd one sank soon after launching?
  3. I'm booked on her 1st August, thats assuming she's in service by then. If not I'm guessing it will still be Normandie
  4. How many of BF's previous newbuilds have arrived on schedule? I remember the Mont was significantly delayed but I also seem to think Bretagne and Barfleur arrived later than originally planned? Seem to think i'd read it somewhere.
  5. What time did she leave? We got off at 1625 and there was still 2 lanes of Deck 3 plus all of Deck 5 to unload?
  6. From what I could see at Plymouth I think the upper deck might have been loaded correctly with vehicles facing the bow ready to go down the ramp and drive off the Stern but i cant say for sure that was the case. As for the weather causing her to berth stern-in at Plymouth I wondered if the Authorities had insisted on her Berthing that way because of the weather and to potentially avoid a situation like what happened to the 'Pride of Kent' at Calais? Are ships more susceptible to getting caught by the wind when reversing and turning off the berth?
  7. Having sailed on Armorique once before and enjoyed it I was looking forward to sampling her again. I'm fond of her cabins and internal decor and layout. I'd had Prior Warning that the weather was going to be grim and on the drive to Plymouth it certainly was very grim. On arrival at Plymouth i noticed she was berthed Stern-in. Thinking nothing else of it we were loaded on to deck 3 at 8.20 (for an 8.00 sailing) and she left Plymouth at around 8.35. I assumed we were late just because of the weather and because of the sheer volume of traffic being loaded on as she was totally rammed! The crossing was pretty bumpy and there were quite a few suffering from 'mal de mer' including a child in the cinema just 5 mins after the film had started. I thought the ship handled it ok and was quite impressed. There had been an announcement that we would be arriving in Roscoff 45 minutes later than scheduled but if you'd seen the weather at the time you'd have accepted such a small delay. However thats just where the fun was beginning to start, we arrived in Roscoff at 15.45 french time so had made up 15 mins from somewhere so all was looking good however we berthed Stern-in at Roscoff too 🤔. I asked a member of staff on the garage deck if there was a fault with the bow door and she said they weren't allowed to berth bow-in at Plymouth because of the adverse weather which sounds plausible but how often does this happen? So we were to either reverse out of the garage or turn around, the garage crew helped where they could by unhitching caravans and trailers and then coupling them back up but the real problem was actually with the Motorhomes. Some drivers trying to perform an 18-point turn in the garage rather than use their huge mirrors and try to reverse in a Straight line. Surely if you drive a Motorhome you should be capable of Reversing it straight between 2 lines painted on a floor? After 45 mins watching the debacle we disembarked leaving 2 full lanes still to go before the poor souls on deck 5 would be lowered. Please dont mistake this report as a rant at BF as the weather was beyond their control and the garage staff were trying their best to help although at times some of them were managing to confuse things rather than help. My gripe was about the standard of some of the manouvering i was witnessing which just added to the frustration. My guess is she will have departed Roscoff around 2 hours late for the return crossing? Maybe someone on here was on that crossing and could confirm? And then was she able to berth bow-in at Plymouth? Still a fan of the Armorique, drivers of motorhomes not so
  8. And they still are! Over 30 years on banging, screeching and clattering up and down our lines! If you are travelling on a local line in the Manchester area chances are you'll experience a 142. We dont get new trains up north we just get Southern cast offs. Digressing back to the topic, as somebody has already stated we are all aware of Bretagne's shortcomings but what other vessel is out there around that would suit the route better? Is a full Bretagne earning more than a half full Pont? So her garage can take 30 minutes+ to disembark from.. its a 9 hour crossing if you were in such a rush you would take the Caen route or even Calais. You wouldnt take a 9 hour flight and expect to be out of the airport within 30 mins
  9. chid679

    Boxing day

    Thanks Gareth, i'll get the accomodation booked and then keep an eye out for the schedules.
  10. chid679

    Boxing day

    I'm looking at booking a few days in France around Christmas returning from France on Boxing Day and I'm aware that the Winter timetable hasn't been released yet. Does anyone know from previous years if any routes operate on Boxing Day? Either Caen or Le Havre would be suitable.
  11. I wouldnt expect Honfleur to have twin freight decks plus a car deck on top unless there was a demand for it and at present i dont think there is the demand to warrant such a design. What I like about BF is they dont have sisterships and that each ship is individual and is suitable for the route it operates. What i also like is that they dont tend to put square pegs in round holes by using unsuitable ships on their routes ( thinking DFDS using the Transmanche ferries on the Le Havre route and Malo Seaways on the Calais route just to name a couple of instances). Of the 9 conventional ferries in the current fleet ( excluding Pelican) 3 where chartered/purchased and 5 of them are still operating the route they were Purpose built for illustrating that when BF order a new ship they tend to get it right. If you wanted to be critical you could suggest they got it slightly wrong with the Bretagne as they found she was too small for the Santander route within 4 years but she has turned out to be a great fit for the St Malo route.
  12. I'm sorry I just cant see how moving the steering wheel from one side to the other makes a difference. It doesnt make the car any wider
  13. I thought the Newhaven-Dieppe twins had bow visor type doors like the Estonia and older ferries? These were only built in 2006 so I'm guessing they are a modified type of bow visor?
  14. I can't see why Bf would be interested in the Patria Seaways
  15. What benefit would BF gain from chartering Patria Seaways? She looks like a sister ship to the Stena challenger which was built in 1992, so the same age as Normandie & Barfleur and only a few years younger than Bretagne. Plus having travelled on the Challenger a few times on the Calais route and finding her passenger areas poor, cramped and not offering enough facilities to keep me occupied on a 90minute crossing I can't see how she'd be any good on a longer crossing.
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