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Gareth

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  1. So.....we now have on the table “The Deal”. Suppose this was put to a second referendum, with three choices on a STV system. The choices are: A. Accept the deal B. Reject the deal and Leave the EU C. Reject the deal and Remain in the EU The rules are: 1. Rank your order of preference down as far as you want to go. First choice, second choice (if you want to give one). 2. Voting must be completed by 11pm on Saturday 24 November. 3. At the first counting, the option with the fewest first-choice votes will be removed. 4. Any second choice elected by voters whose first choice was the removed option will be transferred to the second choice option. 5. The second count will decide between the remaining two options, with the transferred votes from the first count now added in. 6. The option with the larger number of votes (aggregate of first choice and transferred second choice) wins the BFE Second Referendum. 7. Any member who votes twice will have their votes subsequent to their first submission disregarded. 8. Result will be announced in exactly 1 week’s time!
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    Tanker - warship collision

    The plot thickens. There may be US involvement at officer level: https://news.sky.com/story/us-sailor-was-on-board-sunk-norwegian-frigate-and-could-be-questioned-11557433
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    SAILING UPDATES: 2018 Latest News

    Tonight’s “2200 Le Havre - Portsmouth” sailing must be one of the shortest-lived sailings marketed by BF! It was added to the schedules, to be operated by BDS, just before the New Year after BF sent BDS to Le Havre instead of Bilbao. But it has just been “cancelled” on the BF sailings updates page! I make it about three days, therefore, that this departure has been in existence before disappearing! 😉
  4. I shall kick off. My votes are: First choice: Option B Second choice: Option C
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    BF Refits 2018-19

    Good question. Both are at the yard for a good while - far longer than would be normal for a routIne refit. Both are out of action for the best part of a month.
  6. The place to post general musings and views on any aspect you like of Brexit. Brexit is a very important topic, and aspects of it will naturally crop up in the context of ferry-related discussion in other threads. However, it is also right and proper that there is a place in the forum to discuss the issue, including its political aspects, in its own right. However, there are a few ground rules, and by posting in this thread you agree to the following rules and principles: 1. The topic of Brexit is wide-ranging and contraversial. Individuals may hold very strong views on the matter. But no matter how strongly those views are held, you appreciate and accept that others are also entitled to their view. There is no "right" and "wrong" on the matter, and all views are equally welcome in the discussion. 2. There is no place in the forum for posts that are rude, disrespectful, insulting or intolerant of the views of others. 3. The forum is a place for rational and considered debate, not un-reasoned political ranting. 4. Posts that do not conform to these basic principles may be removed by the moderators without further notice.
  7. I’m sure that the activity in this thread will pick up when there is something meaningful to talk about.....! 😉 🤣
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    Baie de Seine

    Indeed. And not primarily to stop them falling off, but mostly to stop them shifting. The need to stop them shifting applies equally to heavy trailers in the main enclosed car decks. (Shifting cargo was, after all, what led to Riverdance getting into trouble in the first place).
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    Baie de Seine

    Oh right, sorry. Yes they will chain them. Do you remember the pictures of Riverdance on her side on Blackpool beach? The chaining did a remarkable job of keeping the open-deck trailers secured to the deck for days, even though the deck was vertical.
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    Baie de Seine

    They all lock together as part of the intrinsic design of the container system. But I don’t think there is any additional chaining. To be honest, I think it is rare for containers to be lost in the English Channel - it rarely gets rough enough. But out in the oceans it is a different matter, and loss of containers in the oceans is not uncommon.
  11. To be honest, I doubt that the DUP is going to make that much of a difference to anything. With or without them, it is hard to see May getting anything through parliament. The gulf she is trying to bridge is just so much more than a dozen votes.
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    Tanker - warship collision

    Indeed. Very well worth a read. Some salient points: Frigate had 134 people on board (all of whom escaped, as far as we know, unhurt). It was not a crossing situation, it was a head-on reciprocal course situation. Tanker (correctly) adjusted course to starboard, and told frigate to do the same. Frigate (unbelievably and inexplicably) adjusted to port (which good seamanship requires you should never do). Tanker crew did not know (and were not told) the other vessel was a warship until after the collision. Frigate crew seemed unaware that a collision had taken place!!
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    Baie de Seine

    I agreed with your comment Tony - but it was definitely a comment on the decision of the captain to abandon the sailing to Spain and divert to Brest. At the time you made it, the ship was still waiting to unload and her return to Portsmouth was not known. 😉
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    Baie de Seine

    I don’t Tony’s comment was anything other than a personal opinion Ed. I can’t imagine that the conditions were anywhere near the safe operational limits of the vessel - if they were anywhere near that bad, the ship would not have got anywhere near sailing from Portsmouth in the first place. My interpretation of the captain’s (good) decision was that things had become so uncomfortable for the passengers (and perhaps close enough to what the passengers were happy to endure, especially given their knowledge of whatever happened to the injured passenger) that the captain decided that the passengers had had enough. That is very different from suggesting that the vessel herself was close to safe limits.
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    Tanker - warship collision

    Or worse. I’d have thought this would be court martial territory.
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    Prices in France variations.

    Ah the white stuff’s goat’s cheese. Thanks Neil. Sounds great. Was the duck smoked?
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    Prices in France variations.

    Great report Neil. (I am trying to work out what the dish in the penultimate photo actually is.....!)
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    HONFLEUR - Arriving June 2019

    Very good thought.
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    Val De Loire Oil Painting

    Very unbecoming for such a fine stalwart of the fleet....all those needles! 😳
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    New Terminal for Santander

    I get the "freeing up valuable land for development" bit of the rationale. But the "being able to handle bigger ships" part doesn't make any sense. For a start, I can't see how there is any practical restriction on size of ship at the current terminal. And secondly, even if there is such a restriction - if the idea is to be able to accommodate ships that are so huge that the current terminal could not accommodate them, then I can't for the life of me think where those ships are going to dock in Plymouth / Portsmouth / Cork!
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    New Terminal for Santander

    Oh, what a shame! Landing in the middle of town is one of the real charms about sailing to Santander.
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    Tanker - warship collision

    Extraordinary. Someone’s for the chop, that’s for sure.
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    SAILING UPDATES: 2018 Latest News

    She’s also making 22 knots, so can’t be too bad. Agreed, hope all goes well for nodwad’s crossing. Uncertainty about if/when your ship is going to sail is horrible.
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    SAILING UPDATES: 2018 Latest News

    She’ll still call at Roscoff. But then the chance to catch up time will be on the Roscoff-Bilbao leg. This is normally scheduled for about 20 hours but is doable in about 13-14.
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    SAILING UPDATES: 2018 Latest News

    Based on where she is at the moment, I’d estimate that CF will be 3 or 4 hours late getting into Santander this afternoon.
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