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With the expected congestion at Portsmouth after Brexit and with BF wanting to buy Condor I wonder why Condor and BF don't agree between themselves to transfer the CI ships to Poole and the Barfleur to Portsmouth for the next 6 months. This would protect CI trade from the expected delays and make it easier for BF to cope with any delays on their main route. Brownie points for BF in protecting the CI. Win win I would have thought.

This explains the Carnet purpose. They predated UK VAT and were issued by the AA. If the current version will be required then I can see it having a dramatic effect on BF if the prices quoted are imposed on UK travelers to the EU. The UK Gov site mentions "other documents" that may be required without being specific. https://www.carseurope.net/carnet-de-passage-en-douanes-cpd/

Thanks Gareth. To be honest I'm of an age where I still remember having then but have long given up on counting them.🙄

Yes it was required in addition to an IDP. It was an indemnity document for making a temporary import of a vehicle. If you failed to return your vehicle back to your own country then import duty was payable. If a vehicle was written off in an accident abroad you had to return the wreckage to the UK to avoid a large bill.

Prior to the UK joining the EEC if you wanted to take a vehicle to Europe you had to obtain a Carte Carnet. Is that, under a no deal situation, going to be a requirement again

A Bi Lateral agreement eh. Well no one would ever contemplate breaking one of those would they? Just as any other agreement if there is any political capital in breaking it it will be broken. Whether it is the current border arrangements or the GFA.

At the end of the day, it's 6 people. It might be of more concern if every other person who tried to get to the UK was found but that is never going to be the case. The great majority trying to come here carry no risk to anyone what so ever. The same cannot always be said of some people who have spent all their lives here.

Particularly concerning..... because? Perhaps it could be seen as good news that people actually still want to come here.😀

Possible problems with new plan highlighted. https://www.cityam.com/new-300m-no-deal-brexit-freight-plan-risks-legal-delays-experts-warn/

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/17803332.ferry-company-delivers-latest-blow-customers/

Perhaps there is a slight difference in doing something when the rules are relatively stable and contracting to do the same when the rules are an unknown. I've no doubt people will bid for the work. Whether they will be wise to do so is another matter. To be fair there never seems to be any consequences in defaulting on government contracts so perhaps it's a win win situation for anyone who wants to get involved.

Merely replaced with another of the same ilk I'm afraid. I refer you to David Williams post above. How anyone can be expected to quote for a contract when a requirement is that the provider "will need to be able to accept products from various consignor locations across Europe and provide a full international express transport service with delivery to end consignee locations in the UK on a 24-hour service basis. Access will also be required for the same services between locations in the UK and Europe". That seems vergeing on lunacy when nobody has any idea what customs arrangements or checks will be in place on 1st November 2019.

It could be due to military considerations. General Incompetence might be in charge again.😀

I'm not saying ferries don't play an important roll in any general planning. Perhaps money might be better spent employing companies that already efficiently carry out the function of carrying medical supplies and can quickly reach all parts of the UK rather than trying to start new supply lines as some have been advocating.

Or they could do what the article says and hire a "logistics company" such as DHL or UPS to fly in whatever is needed urgently to where it is actually needed. I know this is a ferry site but the world doesn't revolve around ferries to the exclusion of everything else🤔