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  1. 5 hours ago, Cabin-boy said:

    If they no longer need space for the tanks then that would make sense but they'll have to presumably sacrifice something lower down in the hull to add in other fuel tanks that weren't planned before. 

    Well if they were looking at a longer route and have a potential buyer such extensive alterations could make sense ...

    1 hour ago, jujudu62100 said:

    Looks like a blue color on the front of the boat, maybe the start of a new livery? where just a protection of the hull.

    Would DFDS be interested in her as a long term solution for Roslare-Dunkirk? With extra accommodation could work for their longer term needs...

  2. 18 minutes ago, Gareth said:

    Is it my imagination or has her funnel been removed?  If so, is that an indication that they might be modifying her engines to run on more conventional fuel?

    Looks like it...I also wonder if they are looking at extending the accommodation block...?

  3. Sadly, I think you are both right, likely a few more years at Cean, probably followed by a major review of the business model and a trip to the beach for Normandy.  I fear that fate could be even closer for Bretange...in the present circumstances is there a place for such a heavily passenger orientated route as Portsmouth-St Malo?

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  4. I believe there is double deck loading at Pembroke and as far as I am aware double deck loading is available at Birkenhead, though not at Liverpool. 

    That said I am not sure that expansion of the South Wales to Roslare routes would be fulfilling any demand in the foreseeable future, but could there be an option to revive a quality service between Merseyside and Dublin?

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  5. Don't know if this is the right place for this...sorry if it's discussed else where... but I notice, that according to the ferry site Cotentin finished on her present rout to Gdanya on 29 October 2020, does this mean that her charter is now complete and if so, is she likely to be returning to BF?

  6. 23 minutes ago, colin said:

    Having a bit of experience of these situations in Germany, there would have been quite a few parties involved in the discussions. Management and creditors are mentioned, but employees, local government , chamber of commerce, banks ... It sounds like the current management cannot come up with a plan that creditors will run with. BF are presumably a creditor, but their claims may have been affected by the previous takeover / refinancing, renegotiations, the protection procedure? Still all very murky.

    With that in mind there would seem to be very little point in a continued relationship with the present FSG management/owners...as I said above, best to step away and then possibly try to forge a new relationship with the new owners (if that is still possible, given there appears to be no viable business to acquire ). If BF actually still want the vessel the best option would appear to be buying the hull from the receivers in due course and taking it elsewhere. The question is do they still need it and what sort of financing package could deliver it if they do?

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  7. 37 minutes ago, Gareth said:

    I did have a thought this morning.  I wonder if BF made an offer to the yard to take the ship as she is (so they could send her somewhere else) but the offer was rejected or too high a price was demanded.  And then, did BF cancel the order with the intention of forcing the yard to close so they can then acquire the unfinished ship as-is for a much lower price from the receivers?  Only thing with that theory, I suppose (apart from it being morally dubious and possibly on the fringes of legality (?)), is that they probably wouldn't have announced the cancellation so publicly.  The public announcement kind of conveys a finality that indicates BF has no interest in subsequently acquiring the ship.  (They'd look pretty foolish if they issue a subsequent announcement saying they have recommissioned Honfleur after all).

    I think you have a point here...but how likely is it that the yard will be acquired by the potential buyer with an unfinished ship sitting on the pier with no prospective buyer?  There would appear to be no real rout to an income stream at this yard, and a great big dead weight in the way of any future builds...they nee a deal and quickly!

  8. Many thanks. Makes sense.  Could BF be looking at the possibility of new owners taking the yard over, then going back to see if they can get a better deal to complete the vessel at FSG, or alternatively buy the hull and take it for completion elsewhere?  Or is it simply they no longer need the vessel given all that is going on...

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  9. Of course, and indeed with the charter arrangements for the e-flexers, they will need to look at the bigger picture...that said I struggle to see how the government contract can be fulfilled without bringing in extra tonnage, probably a couple of vessels, probably needed for a couple of years.  Could be an interesting couple of months...and they will need Honfleur delivered on time!

  10. 1 hour ago, jonno said:

    The French seaman's union would be up in arms if the Cypriot flagged & Cypriot crewed Connemara shifted across to cover Plymouth - Roscoff, they caused enough disruption when she began sailing form Cork in the first place.

    Personally I wouldn't want a 30+ year old cruise ferry sailing on the Bay of Biscay for all sorts of reasons. She may need expensive structural strengthening for starters. VDL was relatively new when BF bought her, they still needed to spend millions on her. I wouldn't consider doing the same with Bretagne either.

    Yes, accept your point on both vessels entirely...so if additional tonnage were required where do you envisage it coming from?

  11. See your point Jonno, but just another thought on the Oscar Wilde idea.  Say they were to acquire her and put her on the Cork-Spain & Cork Roscoff routes until the New builds arrive and release Connemara to the Plymouth-Roscoff route...that may increase the freight capacity Plymouth -Roscoff...then reintegrate Cotentin for Poole-Cherberg?

  12. Was thinking the same my self Gareth, though Oscar Wild would mean a slight reduction in passenger capacity and certainly in bed capacity on St Malo; so she might be better suited to Plymouth - Roscoff, where she would offer similar capacity for passenger traffic to Amourique, but perhaps slightly more freight capacity.

    tricky balance to be found!

  13. BF Press Release:


    UK government contract – additional freight capacity for a no-deal Brexit

    28th December 2018


    Brittany-Ferries-Armorique-wearing-new-lFollowing confirmation of the contract agreed with the Department for Transport (DfT), Brittany Ferries has outlined steps being taken to change sailing schedules for 2019.

    Nineteen weekly return-sailings will be added to three routes on the western channel: Roscoff to Plymouth, Cherbourg to Poole and Le Havre to Portsmouth. These additional rotations will allow more space for lorries, as requested by the Department for Transport. In total Brittany Ferries will realise a 50 per cent increase in freight capacity on the three affected routes from 29th March 2019, representing a 30 per cent increase overall  on the western Channel.

    “Our priority is to prepare for a no-deal Brexit and to create additional capacity,” said Christophe Mathieu Brittany Ferries CEO. “By increasing the number of rotations on routes like Le Havre – Portsmouth we will be able to meet the Department for Transport’s Brexit requirement. We will also work hard to minimise the impact on existing Brittany Ferries freight customers and passengers, although there may be some changes to some sailing times, for which we apologise in advance.”

    Brittany Ferries operates 12 ships and 11 routes, linking the UK with France, the UK with Spain, France with Ireland and Ireland with Spain. It carries around 2.5 million passengers every year, 85 percent of whom are British, as well as around 210,000 freight units.

    The company was born on 2 January 1973, the day after the UK joined the EEC (forerunner to EU). The first sailing carried market garden produce grown by Breton farmers seeking new markets across the Channel. From these humble beginnings, Brittany Ferries quickly became a tour operator, adding routes linking the UK to Spain in 1978.

    In the last year, the company has confirmed a €450 m investment in fleet renewal. Three new ships will be delivered post-Brexit. The first vessel, called Honfleur, will be the first ferry powered by LNG (liquefied natural gas) to sail on the English Channel. She enters service in summer 2019 and will operate on the company’s busiest route between Portsmouth and Caen.



    Surprised that no additional tonnage mentioned.

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