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  1. 4 hours ago, Fine Whine said:

    But they will never mask the petro-chemical pong though...ūüė≥ūü§£


    ps for LHC, pong = ça pue, ça sent mauvais, ça schlingue, (even though your English is generally far better than our French!)

    Not frequently used and argotic but funny: ça klaxonne

  2. 36 minutes ago, LHCity said:

     The department of Seine Maritime is now a shareholder of SOMANOR and Le Havre is the largest city in Seine Maritime. 

    A lot of assumptions in your posts I'm afraid. One thing though, Le Havre is not the most populated urban area in Seine Maritime, Rouen is the most populated one according to the INSEE (French equivalent of ONS) with almost 490,000 inhabitants . So following this logic we would have a BF service to Rouen....

  3. 18 hours ago, Solo said:


    Could that be to do with the numbers that they have had to deal with in the UK, I'm sure someone can tell us the percentage of UK bookings compared with France.

    I 'd like to think this explains all. However, my experience of BF services over the last 13 years tells me that the French side is less formal but far more efficient in practice.

  4. I am currently on Armorique sailing to Plymouth with 26 pax, not cars, 26 passengers!

    One can now measure the dilemmas BF have faced for the resumption of services prior to the quarantine exemption. 

    Fed up with waiting for some white smoke from Westminster regarding the quarantine rule I decided to bite the bullet and go back to UK. I will self isolate at home since my job allows to work from home. 

    It is heartbreaking to see such a large ship travel virtually empty. It feels like one of those crossings from December, especially with this today's weather. I am glad to report that protection measures seem to work well for both the passengers and the crew. One thought occurred to me regarding the reduced capacity of the sailings, it is not just about maintaining safes distances between passengers but also to maintain these distances for the crew e.g. no shared cabins. The latter requirement must bring some serious restrictions on crew numbers. 

    Otherwise the sailing is as pleasant as usual. I always travel with a cabin anyway so no changes there. My club plus cabin was immaculate and the crew genuinely happy to be back. 

    Re customer services I have noticed an enormous gap between the UK and French services. No need to delve in the issues and attitudes we have seen on the UK side of the operations. In contrast the French side appeared far more accessible. For example I amended my booking yesterday morning and did not receive an amended ticket and no possibility to contact BF UK in a timely manner. I called BF desk in Roscoff and was sent a copy of my ticket without fuss before I could even put the phone down. I think BF need to have a serious look at their UK side of the operations whose handling of the crisis has been damaging in terms of image of the company. In another instance I needed to amend tickets booked on the Irish website and received the same efficient response as with the French side. Rant over. 

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  5. I was booked on a St Malo to Portsmouth crossing on 6/07 with a commodore cabin. I received an email informing me of the cancellation with refund voucher note. Fearing that alternative sailings would get full quickly I booked a new crossing straight away on Pont Aven crossing ex Roscoff on Sunday 5/07 with a commodore again 

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  6. I've given up waiting for the restart of the services and moved my france bound bookings to August. Opted for the chunnel instead next week with Flexiplus option, fully refundable... I nearly booked a Harwich Hook of Holland crossing but the extra mileage and border crossings outweighed what could have been a comfortable option 

    Still hoping for a Roscoff Plymouth crossing on 5th July 

  7. 34 minutes ago, David Williams said:


    sounds bad, I predict the Pont Aven will stay moored.

    I may be wrong but the large number of cabins on Pont Aven makes her more suitable given the policy of compulsory cabins? 

    Pont Aven on a triangular rota Portsmouth St Malo Cork? 

    Armorique staying in Roscoff or replacing Normandie due again to higher cabin number? 

    Bretagne on Portsmouth Cherbourg? 

    Barfleur remaining laid up? 

  8. 2 hours ago, Cabin-boy said:

    We need a Ministry of Information, seeing as Boris believes he's leading us through a wartime situation, to collate, coordinate, publish, broadcast and justify any government statements to avoid this type of confusion. It would stop ministers getting invited onto TV and radio shows to answer questions on one subject and then being tricked into making unfounded remarks on others. Ed. 

    Totally agree with you. I would much prefer to see ministers stay in their offices and do their job properly rather than parade around TV studios and exhibit their lack of grip on the situtation

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  9. 4 minutes ago, The Ferry Man said:

    Is there any particular reason Berth 5 is no longer used?

    As far as I can remember Berth 5 is now too narrow for most current ships. Berth 6 does not have such a restriction since her dolphin had been modified to accomodate a wider berth even before the new one was built.

    Back in 2013 Berth 5 already saw very little use with calls from mostly the MV Nord Pas de Calais and the infamous Joline ( alive cattle transporter). One could instantly guess the Joline was in the port when greeted by hoards of activists at the roundabouts and at the top of the cliffs screaming...

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  10. 1 hour ago, Gareth said:

    Dover Berth 6 was constructed in 1979/1980, and was the base for Sealink‚Äôs ‚ÄúFlagship‚ÄĚ service to Calais using St Anselm, St Christopher, Cote D‚ÄôAzur and Champs Elysees.

    Pride of Burgundy was built in 1991/1992.

    Was it some sort of reconstruction of the berth that you were involved with Crechbleiz?

    (I know when the current incarnation of DED was created, Berth 3 was reconstructed and a completely new Berth 2 (well to seawards of the original Berth 2 in the Camber) was constructed.  Berth 4 was removed.  And Berths 7-9 were all new.  But I was never sure whether Berths 5 and 6 are the original berths or whether they were rebuilt at some point?)

    Gareth you are correct with the dates of the initial berth 6. However this berth was demolished and rebuilt according to a new design (similar to 8 & 9) in 2012/2013 by Rowecord Engineering Ltd. I had the privilege to be the Project Welding and QA manager for both Rowecord Engineering and then Dover Harbour Board. For the duration of the project we were based in the vacated shore side offices of Seafrance near berth 6.

    It was a complex project made even more complex with treacherous weather conditions and the dimensions of the bridges. Pre-fabrication activities took place in Newport (South Wales) and final assembly of the bridges took place on the defunct Hoverport. Bridges were then moved from the Hoverport to Berth 6 using a pair of floating cranes. One of the technical challenges of the Dover Strait berths is the variety of ships berthing there and the absence of ship ramps.




    On the last link, the DFDS ferry (can't see which one of the Cotes) is berthed on 6. You can see the difference in design between 5 & 6.

    I was then involved in the refurbishment of berth 2 & 7 as a consultant in 2014/2015.

    Berth 5 is no longer in use.

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  11. 10 minutes ago, neilcvx said:

    @hhvferry where else would be able to finish him if FSG didn’t , never mind the potential for another delay due to Covid.

    Many places would be capable of doing so. Damen Brest for a start. The workmanship and engineering competences required are available in Brittany and around. Think of all subcontractors of the St Nazaire shipyards who have the experience of working on both cruise ships and LNG tankers... 


    The current situation is a very complex one needless to say. But... Most posters here look at the situation through British tinted glasses ( with liberalism) and underestimate both the determination of a firm like BF and the French state (and regions of course) to keep things going as they are and protect the local economies. 

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  12. On 15/04/2020 at 14:28, jonno said:

    176264141_Scan_20200415(10).thumb.png.a610d8a55c4a3ccee2ab6484633f7267.pngThese are scans of a French brochure at the drawing board stage. Made of card with handwriting, drawing and some printing & images literally cut and pasted onto the template.

    I'm hoping @hhvferry or @Gareth may be able to indicate a year?



    Hi Jonno, do you know why the brochure have extracts of documents which seems to be related to cameras?

  13. 6 hours ago, David Williams said:

    Not very reassuring, especially the line about 'working tirelessly to secure our long term future' which translates as 'unless we do something we haven't got one' !


    Nothing shocking there... All sound businesses work hard to secure their future.

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  14. I can see a big difference between PA and MV Columbia i.e. the aft ramp or more importantly the absence of a ramp on MV columbia which allows the transfer beams to run all the way from the deck edge to above the enginee room. In the case of PA the aft ramp would have to be either removed or spanned over with long transfer beams from a barge. I would imagine a engine replacement scenario would have been envisaged at design stage with a set protocol e.g. open side hole and transfer beams resting on purposedly strengthened deck structures at these locations.

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  15. On 11/01/2020 at 13:10, Nick Hyde said:

    I would have thought Inishmore by a wide margin.

    Stena Europe all the way for me. Made the point of using both of them on my last round trip to Ireland for work. Atmosphere on Stena Europe is better. Isle of Inishmore is not in a good state and in urgent need of TLC. The best description of the car deck floor plates would be "crusty" never seen such a poor state on a UK ferry, not even on Dover-Calais... Food on Stena Europe Stena + lounge is much better than IF. In my opinion, IF is an inferior product when compared to both BF and Stena. Next april I will be travelling Cherbourg-Dublin on WB Yeats (by necessicity) and back Cork-Roscoff on PA (by choice).

  16. 40 minutes ago, shar^k said:

    I have this on on the list. Also golf des ormes. Just need one more

    Then I would recommend Golf de St Samson near Perros Guirec. Never played there but the surrounding area, the Pink Granite Coast, is a must see in C√ītes d'Armor.¬†


    Much further afield, there a few nice ones around Nantes. When I studied at the √Čcole Polytechnique Nantes we taught golf and we went to Nantes Erdre and L'√ģle d'Or in La Varenne. The latter is on an Island in the Loire River. Pretty amazing place¬†



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