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  1. With the combination of strike action and weather it appears the only BF sailings France-UK tomorrow 12th Dec are from Caen. Cherbourg has succumbed to the weather and St Malo and Le Havre are on strike. There was no scheduled sailing from Roscoff.
  2. Received a call from BF informing me that Wed 11th Dec Portsmouth-St Malo is cancelled due to Industrial Action and that Friday 13th Dec Portsmouth-St Malo is in doubt for the same reason.
  3. Timmy

    Breton Flag on Bretagne

    Vessels with a PEC holder onboard fly a white over red for UK ports.
  4. I'm 100% certain she was always going to be a passenger ship developed under the project name of 'Bretagne 2' (think they used the same code for the Pont-Aven as well) and was from the start was based on Cotentin, IIRC they said identical to Deck 5. I even have the original profile view from the order announcement somewhere where she looked a lot uglier.
  5. As the Manche region put up quite a bit of cash for the Cotentin they wanted her running to Cherbourg. When the building of the Cotentin was announced BF said she would operate Portsmouth-Cherbourg instead of from Poole but that changed before she was delivered, maybe it was negotiating tactic with PHC, maybe they realised they couldn't carry the range of hazardous cargo from Portsmouth as they could from Poole, who knows. The initial crossing time was 3 hours 45 minutes but that went back to 4 hours 15 minutes to save €€€. I believe the success of the expanded Spanish services contributed quite significantly to the downturn in Poole-Cherbourg freight traffic. Before the Portsmouth-Spain services Barfleur and Coutances carried many Spain and Portugal bound HGV's who saw the short crossing time as an advantage so they could get back on the road a.s.a.p., now a lot of these take the direct routes and Poole-Cherbourg has gone from up to 4 sailings a day each way down to 1 (Brexit timetable not included). The weekend Cotentin sailing to Santander showed that there was significant demand for freight capacity to Spain, something which hadn't really been catered for by BF or P&O before as the Spanish services were really focused on passenger traffic, yes you could book freight on the sailings but they really wanted to use the vehicle deck space for cars. Once BF saw the potential they went for the freight wholeheartedly with more freight orientated vessels like Cap Finistere which came with the added bonus of more passenger capacity while P&O stuck their head in the sand. Even once Cotentin had started sailing full at weekends to Spain then P&O CEO Helen Deeble was telling staff that there was no freight market to Spain..... 🤦‍♂️
  6. Regarding the lack a clarity on the delivery date BF are essentially doing FSG a favour. As we know FSG are in a pretty dubious financial state and if BF announce that Honfleur will be delivered in December and FSG fail to meet that date it looks really bad for FSG and could have financial repercussions for them beyond penalties paid to BF. By being vague with dates like Summer 2020 FSG will look good if they deliver in say January one month late on what they may have privately promised but publicly it's all still good.
  7. They will have a bridge at each end.
  8. It appears the vessel for Tilbury-Calais is indeed the Caroline Russ. She is currently off Gijon and due to arrive in Calais on Tuesday. She is the sister of the Mistral which P&O have on charter as the third ship on Liverpool-Dublin. http://www.poferries.com/en/pr-contact/press-release/11.09.2019-P&O-Ferries-to-launch-new-freight-service-connecting-Calais-with-Tilbury-and-London
  9. I notice Galicia is registered in Portsmouth. I wonder if this is just a Stena RoRo thing until she is handed over or we'll actually be getting a British flagged member of the BF fleet. It is in BF font not some temporary stencil job. Having her with a British based crew would save the need for a weekly call in France for a crew change.
  10. Leaving early means they don't need to run as fast across the Channel so they save fuel, quite simple really.
  11. I had that message when I travelled and it wasn't busy, pretty sure it's a standard message they send out. I took it to actually mean "we want to leave early so we can save some fuel".
  12. I'm sure I read on here somewhere that the theory behind the purchase of the Liberation was to make the company more appealing to a potential buyer as the big investment in replacement tonnage would have been seen to be made and the cost savings of one ship doing the work of two would have looked good too. I strongly agree that she is not the right ship for the Channel Island job, but I'm not sure she would be truly suited to any route from the British Isles. I heard from reliable sources she was looked over by many reputable companies before being sold to Condor. But like the Norman Leader/Nova Star she is a ship associated with lots of interesting rumours and speculation that will probably never be publicly confirmed.
  13. The odd 74m Incat, a rare instance of them not just churning out their standard designs during what was the start of their heyday. Not as odd as the final 74m which was almost a 78m prototype.
  14. Not really sure I'm getting your point as from your earlier post you said Poole-Cherbourg wouldn't be on BF map until 1993 but if you class Truckline Poole-Cherbourg as one of the "routes associated with BF" then it wouldn't appear on anything BF until 1999 yet it appears on pretty much everything even the 1989ish toy truck they sold onboard.
  15. Why 1993? The Truckline passenger service was normally included in brochures and publications from 1986 and Brittany Ferries produced guides and maps were handed out to Truckline passengers in the late 80's/early90's before they got stingy and stopped giving out so much free stuff. 1993 for Portsmouth-Santander as a winter only service and that did appear on maps and ship guides (which with the Cork/Poole-St Malo routes made the mini-map on that look incredibly crowded!) The logo on the map ceased to be used in late 2002 when the one before the current one started to be used but didn't start appearing on the ships until 2004 with Pont-Aven, Condor Vitesse and Coutances gaining it that year. Late 1999 or early 2000 as suggested by quibby looks to be the best bet.
  16. Do you have a source for the speed limits and giving way to the chain ferry? I was under the impression that the speed limit was 10 knots in all areas of the Harbour and to 1.4km seaward of South Haven Point with the exception of quiet areas and The Quay and Holes Bay which is 6 knots. The October to end of March relaxation raises the limit above 10 knots in the Wareham, Middle Ship and North Channels. Also a vessel with a PEC holder is considered to be a vessel under compulsory pilotage so the Chain Ferry would give way and will generally sit on the Studland side when a large vessel passes as the deeper water is on the Sandbanks side.
  17. Not really enough space in King George Dock for Mediterranean Moor but one of the P&O berths (two if you count the disused one) and the Finnlines berth are just a slabs of concrete that the ships ramp lowers on to. P&O have the complication of needing to be in the right position to allow the gangway onboard.
  18. I wouldn't assume that a RoRo will be used. P&O use a small container ship on Hull-Zeebrugge alongside the passenger vessels and for a short time also used one on Teesport-Zeebrugge. P&O Ferries are slowly but surely moving more towards becoming a logistics company with increased cooperation and coordination with P&O Ferrymasters to give unaccompanied freight customers a door to door service. They have been running train services to Zeebrugge from Eastern Europe in addition to traditional rail operators services from a variety of locations into their recently expanded terminal and seem to be a major player in the increase in trains from Teesport. There seems to be a plenty of freight space around the conventional berths on the north side of Calais Harbour and it's rail connected. It wouldn't surprise me if that is where the new services runs from.
  19. Little to no tide in the Med so they don't need to bother with linkspans, just build a bit quayside with deep enough water. Plus they love the Mediterranean Moor down there so no dolphins or fenders, just a last minute handbrake turn, drop an anchor and full astern till you hit something!
  20. I have regularly seen drivers, mostly commercial, having a nice chat with Special Branch and being invited to remain on the port until they have sobered up. In some cases the invitation was not taken up and as soon as the vehicle attempted to leave the port the driver gets to spend some quality time with SB. I've also seen French, Belgium, Spanish and Irish Police detain drivers. So it does happen.
  21. Further to my last it appears Bretagne bunkers fresh water in Portsmouth via the bow door from a hydrant on the linkspan.
  22. I wouldn't be so sure, I would bet on them taking on fresh water via hose and hydrant every few days. Keep an eye out for light blue hoses sticking out pilot doors or around the bow/stern door. I'd stick to the bottled stuff!
  23. She can carry double deck coaches if required and certainly has done. The first Incat to be able to carry coaches was the 86m design (Condor Express type) which is why the aft lounge was higher than the rest of the main passenger deck.
  24. She has two props and shafts but unusually for a ferry she won't have have controllable pitch propellers, they'll be fixed. Though as they'll be powered by electric motors reversing direction of turn will be easier than on a traditional HFO/MDO engine.
  25. Assuming the Tanker is linked to the manoeuvre and all was well on both ships the Stena Hollandica would have been taking action as per rules 8, 15 and 16. However on reading your original message again the ship may have been experiencing some technical difficulties as coming to a stop and then turning 90° could be an indication that the ship was not under power at that time. If you stop the shafts the ship will pretty rapidly go whichever way wind and tide want her to go. In which case she would be Not Under Command and it would be the Tanker's responsibility to keep clear.
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