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Aren't there major deadweight problems when she's fully loaded with freight or something along those lines?  Have these been sorted or made not so bad? That's why LD Lines rejected her and why ever since she has drifted from operator to operator, albeit one Canadian outfit went into liquidation. Surely Brittany Ferries wouldn't touch her with a barge pole?

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5 minutes ago, Nick Hyde said:

Aren't there major deadweight problems when she's fully loaded with freight or something along those lines?  Have these been sorted or made not so bad? That's why LD Lines rejected her and why ever since she has drifted from operator to operator, albeit one Canadian outfit went into liquidation. Surely Brittany Ferries wouldn't touch her with a barge pole?

The Canadian outfit was run by her owners and she was too big for the route.  She ended up being seized by the authorities for non payment of dues which ST Marine had to stump up to free her.  Not sure with Intershipping, but she seems to be doing ok with Polferries. 

With regard to BF having her, stranger things have happened which have surprisingly been sprung upon us.  Would anyone have ever thought there would be a couple of Visentinis in the fleet?  Did we see Barfleur’s recall from DFDS?  BF do like to spring surprises so best not rule anything out.  

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With the Canadian company marketing for the Portland to Yarmouth route was done far too late on the season and numbers never met expectations. Also she wasn't necessarily too big for the Portland to Yarmouth route but not the right ship. Not luxurious enough and no wow factor onboard. I travelled on  predocessor Scotia Prince in 1994 and back then was very much marketed as a cruise ferry experience. There was a massive showbar  lounge with professional live acts, very large buffet restaurant and massive casino with slot machines and Jacuzzis on the top deck. Nova Star in comparison was a far inferior onboard experience.

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Granted Nova Star was modern, new and all cabins had ensuites,  unlike Scotia Prince. But Americans who were used to cruising were expecting much much more than Nova Star.

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8 hours ago, Timmy said:

I'm sure I read on here somewhere that the theory behind the purchase of the Liberation was to make the company more appealing to a potential buyer as the big investment in replacement tonnage would have been seen to be made and the cost savings of one ship doing the work of two would have looked good too.

I strongly agree that she is not the right ship for the Channel Island job, but I'm not sure she would be truly suited to any route from the British Isles.  I heard from reliable sources she was looked over by many reputable companies before being sold to Condor.  But like the Norman Leader/Nova Star she is a ship associated with lots of interesting rumours and speculation that will probably never be publicly confirmed.

I have mentioned Nova Star many times here - she is a beautiful ship, doing well now with Polferries.  Although many disagree on here, I think she is perfect for a BF route, she is only marginally bigger than Barfleur, so quite a small vessel compared to many, and she would not fit in the Channel Islands ports anyway, but she is quite luxurious inside and seems to be getting favourable reactions.  Comfortable as well it seems.  Libby, Austal have had more orders for trimarans like her from Fred Olsen so they see to be ok with her half sister to order more.  BF need to really look at Libby and get to the bottom of her issues.  As Gareth said, the cats are perfectly ok in Greece.  So could be down to maintenance issues.  All very well about rumour and speculation but they really don’t help matters at the end of the day.  I see Nova Star plodding back and forth perfectly ok, she should be in the Channel where she was intended, perfectly good vessel.

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Have ex Nova Star's freight deadweight issues been sorted? That is, can she carry all the freight she was designed to carry, hence why LD Lines refused to take delivery. If this hasn't been sorted she shouldn't be touched with a barge pole. 

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5 minutes ago, Nick Hyde said:

Have ex Nova Star's freight deadweight issues been sorted? That is, can she carry all the freight she was designed to carry, hence why LD Lines refused to take delivery. If this hasn't been sorted she shouldn't be touched with a barge pole. 

Ex Nova Star?  She  still is Nova Star. She is ex Norman Leader.   And works perfectly well for Polferries, so what is the issue?  She has been carrying freight for both Intershipping and Polferries without a problem hasn’t she, so why could she not do so in the Channel which she was intended to.  

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I’m confused.  Why is Nova Star being discussed in connection with Channel Island services? She is 160 metres long!

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4 minutes ago, Gareth said:

Why is Nova Star being discussed in connection with Channel Island services? She is 160 metres long!

Because Timmy mentioned her a few comments back regarding the way she is under as much speculation and rumour as Libby. And off we went,  Got me started off, so then Nick replied with quite a dismissive comment, and off we go.. Would it be a good idea to remove the last few comments, so we can get back on track...🙂

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They are not dismissive comments regarding ex Nova Star. Quite simply has her deadweight problems been sorted out or not? Yes or No. Simples.  If they have all good as she would be a welcome addition to the fleet.😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

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1 hour ago, Khaines said:

Because Timmy mentioned her a few comments back regarding the way she is under as much speculation and rumour as Libby. And off we went,  Got me started off, so then Nick replied with quite a dismissive comment, and off we go.. Would it be a good idea to remove the last few comments, so we can get back on track...🙂

Thanks for the clarification Brigitte.  I’ve moved the sequence of posts here into Nova Star’s thread - actually as I think you might have suggested earlier in the thread in any case.  I’ll look back and see if there are other posts about Nova Star that could usefully be moved here.

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This just appeared in my newsfeed, it is in Polish.  Polferries are soon to be her new owners.  Only said a couple of days ago they would probably buy her as they are happy with her, so great news.  Really pleased she has found her niche after all these years, finally fitted in!

https://polferries.pl/o-firmie/polska-zegluga-baltycka-s.a.-wlaścicielem-promu-nova-star.html

 

Edit - Google Translate version.

Polska Żegluga Bałtycka S.A.  owner of the Nova Star ferry
 October 11 in London Polska Żegluga Bałtycka S.A.  bought a Nova Star ferry from Singapore Technologies Marine Ltd, at the same time terminating the charter contract signed in 2018.

 Built in 2011, Nova Star has been employed on the Gdańsk-Nynäshamn route since September 2018.  This only 8-year ferry can carry 1215 passengers, including 648 in cabins in one flight.  Travelers can spend time during the cruise in very comfortable conditions, having at their disposal a shop, cafeteria, restaurant, conference room, and the largest casino in the Baltic Sea.  On the ferry there are also places designed for the youngest passengers.  All this makes Nova Star an ideal solution for a wide range of clients, including families with children.

 "Purchasing the Nova Star ferry was our priority for the current year.  Initially, we predicted the ferry charter for a period of 2 years to make decisions about a possible purchase at that time, but the market verified our plans quite quickly.  The results of passenger and freight transport of the Nova Star ferry over the past year have given us a clear message for the faster termination of the charter contract and purchase of this ferry.  The ferry was very well received on the market, passengers praise the Nova Star ferry for high traveling comfort.  For freight customers, the Nova Star ferry together with the second Wawel ferry are a very good complement to the ferry route from Gdańsk to Nynäshamn, near Stockholm. "  - said the president of Polska Żegluga Bałtycka S.A., Piotr Redmerski.

 Nova Star is the third vessel purchased by the shipowner from Kołobrzeg in the last 5 years as part of the fleet renewal plan.

 Especially for passengers Polska Żegluga Bałtycka S.A.  introduced the Relax on ferry offer for max.  4 + free cabin.

 "Relaxing on the ferry is an offer directed to passengers who would like to check what our new ferry looks like and meet our neighbors from the north. A ferry ride costs from 81 PLN / person."  - said Bartłomiej Mazuruk, Director of Shipping Policy in Polish Baltic Shipping S.A.  - Polferries.

 Currently Polska Żegluga Bałtycka S.A.  , appearing under the POLFERRIES brand, operates five ferries operating on the lines:
 - m / f Nova Star, m / f Wawel on the Gdańsk - Nynäshamn line,
 - m / f Cracovia, m / f Mazovia and m / v Baltivia on the Świnoujście - Ystad route, and in connection with crossing the Oresund Bridge the Świnoujście - Copenhagen connection via Ystad.

 Polferries ferries offer safe and comfortable navigation, traditional good cuisine, the opportunity to make attractive purchases, all in a great atmosphere created by professional and competent service.

 Today ferries of Polish Baltic Shipping S.A.  handling connections with Scandinavia are modern, safe and valued by our passenger and cargo customers.

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