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Aren't there major deadweight problems when she's fully loaded with freight or something along those lines?  Have these been sorted or made not so bad? That's why LD Lines rejected her and why ever since she has drifted from operator to operator, albeit one Canadian outfit went into liquidation. Surely Brittany Ferries wouldn't touch her with a barge pole?

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5 minutes ago, Nick Hyde said:

Aren't there major deadweight problems when she's fully loaded with freight or something along those lines?  Have these been sorted or made not so bad? That's why LD Lines rejected her and why ever since she has drifted from operator to operator, albeit one Canadian outfit went into liquidation. Surely Brittany Ferries wouldn't touch her with a barge pole?

The Canadian outfit was run by her owners and she was too big for the route.  She ended up being seized by the authorities for non payment of dues which ST Marine had to stump up to free her.  Not sure with Intershipping, but she seems to be doing ok with Polferries. 

With regard to BF having her, stranger things have happened which have surprisingly been sprung upon us.  Would anyone have ever thought there would be a couple of Visentinis in the fleet?  Did we see Barfleur’s recall from DFDS?  BF do like to spring surprises so best not rule anything out.  

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With the Canadian company marketing for the Portland to Yarmouth route was done far too late on the season and numbers never met expectations. Also she wasn't necessarily too big for the Portland to Yarmouth route but not the right ship. Not luxurious enough and no wow factor onboard. I travelled on  predocessor Scotia Prince in 1994 and back then was very much marketed as a cruise ferry experience. There was a massive showbar  lounge with professional live acts, very large buffet restaurant and massive casino with slot machines and Jacuzzis on the top deck. Nova Star in comparison was a far inferior onboard experience.

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Granted Nova Star was modern, new and all cabins had ensuites,  unlike Scotia Prince. But Americans who were used to cruising were expecting much much more than Nova Star.

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8 hours ago, Timmy said:

I'm sure I read on here somewhere that the theory behind the purchase of the Liberation was to make the company more appealing to a potential buyer as the big investment in replacement tonnage would have been seen to be made and the cost savings of one ship doing the work of two would have looked good too.

I strongly agree that she is not the right ship for the Channel Island job, but I'm not sure she would be truly suited to any route from the British Isles.  I heard from reliable sources she was looked over by many reputable companies before being sold to Condor.  But like the Norman Leader/Nova Star she is a ship associated with lots of interesting rumours and speculation that will probably never be publicly confirmed.

I have mentioned Nova Star many times here - she is a beautiful ship, doing well now with Polferries.  Although many disagree on here, I think she is perfect for a BF route, she is only marginally bigger than Barfleur, so quite a small vessel compared to many, and she would not fit in the Channel Islands ports anyway, but she is quite luxurious inside and seems to be getting favourable reactions.  Comfortable as well it seems.  Libby, Austal have had more orders for trimarans like her from Fred Olsen so they see to be ok with her half sister to order more.  BF need to really look at Libby and get to the bottom of her issues.  As Gareth said, the cats are perfectly ok in Greece.  So could be down to maintenance issues.  All very well about rumour and speculation but they really don’t help matters at the end of the day.  I see Nova Star plodding back and forth perfectly ok, she should be in the Channel where she was intended, perfectly good vessel.

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Have ex Nova Star's freight deadweight issues been sorted? That is, can she carry all the freight she was designed to carry, hence why LD Lines refused to take delivery. If this hasn't been sorted she shouldn't be touched with a barge pole. 

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5 minutes ago, Nick Hyde said:

Have ex Nova Star's freight deadweight issues been sorted? That is, can she carry all the freight she was designed to carry, hence why LD Lines refused to take delivery. If this hasn't been sorted she shouldn't be touched with a barge pole. 

Ex Nova Star?  She  still is Nova Star. She is ex Norman Leader.   And works perfectly well for Polferries, so what is the issue?  She has been carrying freight for both Intershipping and Polferries without a problem hasn’t she, so why could she not do so in the Channel which she was intended to.  

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I’m confused.  Why is Nova Star being discussed in connection with Channel Island services? She is 160 metres long!

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4 minutes ago, Gareth said:

Why is Nova Star being discussed in connection with Channel Island services? She is 160 metres long!

Because Timmy mentioned her a few comments back regarding the way she is under as much speculation and rumour as Libby. And off we went,  Got me started off, so then Nick replied with quite a dismissive comment, and off we go.. Would it be a good idea to remove the last few comments, so we can get back on track...🙂

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They are not dismissive comments regarding ex Nova Star. Quite simply has her deadweight problems been sorted out or not? Yes or No. Simples.  If they have all good as she would be a welcome addition to the fleet.😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

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1 hour ago, Khaines said:

Because Timmy mentioned her a few comments back regarding the way she is under as much speculation and rumour as Libby. And off we went,  Got me started off, so then Nick replied with quite a dismissive comment, and off we go.. Would it be a good idea to remove the last few comments, so we can get back on track...🙂

Thanks for the clarification Brigitte.  I’ve moved the sequence of posts here into Nova Star’s thread - actually as I think you might have suggested earlier in the thread in any case.  I’ll look back and see if there are other posts about Nova Star that could usefully be moved here.

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