hf_uk Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, jonno said: Don't ask me, I'm still in the "she won't berth in Plymouth brigade". Visit yes, berth no... but hey I always thought WBY wouldn't get into Milford, even Bill Hirst who was harbour master there told me she wouldn't get on the outriggers and many of us thought the Pont wouldn't fit the dock in Astander. It'll be a real bonus for Devon if or when I'm proved wrong and she's tied to the quay at Millbay. It'd make a pleasant change to see the port get something back. Could this be why the third ship is to be controlled by SOMABRET? That would really make us believe PA will replace Bretagne. Exciting times considering the year we're having. ... but I still can't stop thinking that her lack of passenger berths and her extensive lane metres would be wasted there. Right, the stern ramps... Could it be for stern on twin loading? It's quite short and the Stena ships don't have it. True, I think E-flexers would only ever really use Plymouth as a backup, like CF, but it's nice to know they CAN... Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, hf_uk said: True, I think E-flexers would only ever really use Plymouth as a backup, like CF, but it's nice to know they CAN... Having had a bit of a mooch, it seems that the Harwich twins have a similar short vehicle ramp too although theirs is more enclosed and is shielded by the main stern ramp. Link to post Share on other sites
nick hall Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, jonno said: Having had a bit of a mooch, it seems that the Harwich twins have a similar short vehicle ramp too although theirs is more enclosed and is shielded by the main stern ramp. You beat me to it @jonno regarding the Harwich ships, I think you’re right it is because the deck has another one enclosing it, the short ramp is lowered so the shore side ramp has something to rest on. Why Galicia has it and her Stena sisters don’t is not that clear. The only explanation I can think of is the length of the lower ramp means the stern is further away from the link span when it’s lowered therefore the deck above needs the short extension otherwise the shore side upper deck ramp wouldn’t reach the ship. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Stena Galloway Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 54 minutes ago, nick hall said: You beat me to it @jonno regarding the Harwich ships, I think you’re right it is because the deck has another one enclosing it, the short ramp is lowered so the shore side ramp has something to rest on. Why Galicia has it and her Stena sisters don’t is not that clear. The only explanation I can think of is the length of the lower ramp means the stern is further away from the link span when it’s lowered therefore the deck above needs the short extension otherwise the shore side upper deck ramp wouldn’t reach the ship. https://www.faktaomfartyg.se/european_ambassador_2000.htm Stena Nordica appears to have this extra ramp as well so she can fit certain berths. I wonder if this will disappear when she replaces Stena Baltica. Link to post Share on other sites
TonyMWeaver Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, David Williams said: So how many berths did she fit in ? She did Berths 2, 3, and 4. Link to post Share on other sites
TonyMWeaver Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Jim said: She's currently crewed by an offshoot of Stena with British crew and therefore flagged to a British port Transport Correspondent Paul Clifton clearly has no clue, according to him, it was a Chinese crew. Link to post Share on other sites
Khaines Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Good footage of her on South Today this evening. Link to post Share on other sites
daves_pad! Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 For those wanting a photo opportunity of Galicia in Guzz tomorrow, QHM movements show Galicia in at 0830 & back out at 10:30 Link to post Share on other sites
TonyMWeaver Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Khaines said: Good footage of her on South Today this evening. Except Paul Clifton's facts. Link to post Share on other sites
seadog Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 40 minutes ago, TonyMWeaver said: She did Berths 2, 3, and 4. Are you sure she did 3? Link to post Share on other sites
nick hall Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, seadog said: Are you sure she did 3? Her track on Marine Traffic looks like she did 2 & 4, although it isn’t the clearest. She has just left for Plymouth. I’m interested to know how she’ll operate as there’s no double deck loading in Spain. Possible stern on in Spain and bow on in Portsmouth but loading on both levels. Or stern only like Cap Finistere. I guess we’ll know in December. Link to post Share on other sites
TonyMWeaver Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, seadog said: Are you sure she did 3? Don't think she did, she was supposed to. Edited October 13, 2020 by TonyMWeaver Link to post Share on other sites
Cabin-boy Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, TonyMWeaver said: Photo taken through glass The bottom of a glass at the 'Still and West' perhaps? Here is her track showing only berths 2 and 4. Ed 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, TonyMWeaver said: Transport Correspondent Paul Clifton clearly has no clue, according to him, it was a Chinese crew. I see from Twitter that it's confirmed there are also Chinese crew onboard - in many ways that would make sense to allow for troubleshooting in the voyage. I've edited out your subsequent comment about Mr Clifton. There's no need for insults. Link to post Share on other sites
TonyMWeaver Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Cabin-boy said: The bottom of a glass at the 'Still and West' perhaps? No, from the bridge of the Gosport Ferry. Link to post Share on other sites
TonyMWeaver Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jim said: I see from Twitter that it's confirmed there are also Chinese crew onboard - in many ways that would make sense to allow for troubleshooting in the voyage. Must have been a skeleton crew. Link to post Share on other sites
seadog Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 UK flag so put who you like on her. Link to post Share on other sites
Cabin-boy Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, TonyMWeaver said: Must have been a skeleton crew. That sounds like an invitation to start a whole new series of puns. But they must be humerus. Ed. Link to post Share on other sites
The Ferry Man Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) The upper stern ramp talking about earlier - its a considerable chunk of metal! Edited October 13, 2020 by The Ferry Man Extra Pic 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
zuludelta Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I think that chunk of metal at the back is in fact an advertising hoarding. Companies like DFS sofas and Virgin Media broadband could buy space on it. And if a passing freighter captain in the Bay of Biscay ever sees it he'll be like "Oh, I see DFS have a sale on...the sofa in the crew mess room is looking a bit ropy. I must pick up a new one when we get to Felixstowe..." 4 Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 4 hours ago, nick hall said: Her track on Marine Traffic looks like she did 2 & 4, although it isn’t the clearest. She has just left for Plymouth. I’m interested to know how she’ll operate as there’s no double deck loading in Spain. Possible stern on in Spain and bow on in Portsmouth but loading on both levels. Or stern only like Cap Finistere. I guess we’ll know in December. Both Bilbao & Santander are to get twin loading linkspans. When the new terminal is built in Santander there will be two linkspans to choose from. I've only known the Cap to be bow on in Santander. Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, The Ferry Man said: The upper stern ramp talking about earlier - its a considerable chunk of metal! Where you flying alongside or something? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Cabin-boy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 hours ago, The Ferry Man said: The upper stern ramp talking about earlier - its a considerable chunk of metal! Perhaps it's a pop-up air-brake like you get on a Porsche. Ed. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
The Ferry Man Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 hours ago, jonno said: Where you flying alongside or something? Haha no - just on the Round Tower! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
David Williams Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 An interesting exchange 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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