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November issue of Ships Monthly has a five page article on Condor Liberation including an interview with the Master. I've not read it yet.

Off you go to the newsagent Brigitte!

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On 12/10/2018 at 09:44, Cabin-boy said:

She can't today. She's got the decorators in. Ed. 

She’s got one now.  Her men aren’t coming until Tuesday.

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On 12/10/2018 at 09:42, cvabishop said:

November issue of Ships Monthly has a five page article on Condor Liberation including an interview with the Master. I've not read it yet.

Off you go to the newsagent Brigitte!

Subscribe the modern way 😉

https://shipsmonthly.com/subscriptions/

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I don’t bother with subscriptions,  I like the old fashioned way of thumbing through the copies in Smiths, reason being money is tight and I only buy issues that have my favourite ships featured, or have other shipping features that I am interested in reading at leisure.  Cannot afford them every month.

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The subscription is about two thirds of the cover price. So if you buy two issues out of every three it pays to subscribe.  If you buy less frequently than that then the subscription will be more expensive.

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Buying direct from shops helps keep the High Street vibrant and alive!!

Onto the Libby article in Ships Monthly, that caused quite a debate on the Condor Ferries Good and Bad Facebook group. Personally good to see her featured.

Also there is talk (feasibility stage only) of Condor considering a ro pax replacement for Goodwill. This is reported in the recent International Cruise and Ferry Review. It also does say both Clipper and Goodwill have many years left in them so replacement is far from certain but the fact this subject is being discussed is exciting in itself. It's also not certain what comes first - Rapide replacement or Goodwill. 

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Buying direct from shops helps keep the High Street vibrant and alive!!

Not quite as simple as that unfortunately! Sales of hard copy magazines are in steep decline generally and the smaller specialist interest ones  are often in a precarious financial situation. When you buy a magazine in W H Smith, only around 50% of the cover price will get back to the publisher and that's without paying for the magazine to be placed in a prominent position on the shelves. Subscriber copies bring in far more revenue to the publishers and a strong subscriber base is essential to the magazine continuing which is why subscriptions are pushed so hard.

The magazine I do part time work for and contribute to would not survive without its subscribers.

So if you only buy the occasional copy for specific content such as in this instance that's fine. But if you buy it every month then the greater good will be served by taking out a subscription.

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49 minutes ago, cvabishop said:

Not quite as simple as that unfortunately! Sales of hard copy magazines are in steep decline generally and the smaller specialist interest ones  are often in a precarious financial situation. When you buy a magazine in W H Smith, only around 50% of the cover price will get back to the publisher and that's without paying for the magazine to be placed in a prominent position on the shelves. Subscriber copies bring in far more revenue to the publishers and a strong subscriber base is essential to the magazine continuing which is why subscriptions are pushed so hard.

The magazine I do part time work for and contribute to would not survive without its subscribers.

So if you only buy the occasional copy for specific content such as in this instance that's fine. But if you buy it every month then the greater good will be served by taking out a subscription.

It's a 2 edged sword, more money direct to the Publisher or more money to the High St shop to keep it open.

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Having magazines stocked in a shop is good awareness and branding and will attract peole who may not have previously known about it. Plus we need to keep the shops alive. ..one newsagent in Guernsey has closed down because people were buying online instead.

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It's a 2 edged sword, more money direct to the Publisher or more money to the High St shop to keep it open.

Not really. If the publisher goes bust there won't be any magazines to stock. Quite agree that high street presence is important but without a good subscriber base - no mag!

In the case of my magazine, and no doubt many others, it is WHS who decide whether to stock it in a particular branch so you will find it in some places and not others. So if your local branch doesn't stock it then you won't see it!

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Realistically you need both trades for enthusiast magazine distribution  - retail and subscriber. Subscriber should form the bulk but retail is essential for the reasons I mentioned.  And Khaines is doing the right thing supporting the local shops.

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Yes, ideally you do need both but some magazines are subscription only such as the EOS magazine which covers Canon cameras and the excellent Scuttlebutt previously published by Friends of the Museum of the Royal Navy and now being published by the museum itself where you can sometime find copies for sale at Portsmouth. Both do well.

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I thumb through the three shipping periodicals on sale  and if there are features which would take a little longer to read then I will buy.  I admit to reading the ferry news pages every month though.  Lots of older people buy from newsagents, we have a lot of people with disabilities that go in every day to collect their favourite magazines.  One buys every heavy metal/classic rock music magazine out.  He enjoys buying it and chatting to the staff.  I buy my TV guides, papers, womens mags in there and I quite enjoy poking round tge store as well while there.

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1 hour ago, cvabishop said:

Not quite as simple as that unfortunately! Sales of hard copy magazines are in steep decline generally and the smaller specialist interest ones  are often in a precarious financial situation. When you buy a magazine in W H Smith, only around 50% of the cover price will get back to the publisher and that's without paying for the magazine to be placed in a prominent position on the shelves. Subscriber copies bring in far more revenue to the publishers and a strong subscriber base is essential to the magazine continuing which is why subscriptions are pushed so hard.

The magazine I do part time work for and contribute to would not survive without its subscribers.

So if you only buy the occasional copy for specific content such as in this instance that's fine. But if you buy it every month then the greater good will be served by taking out a subscription.

I can second that. Magazine subscriptions offer the struggling publisher collateral and peace of mind to a degree.

 The money now is in digital media especially for the publisher an author. Royalties for a £9.99 paperback are less than a £1.99 Kindle download. I can spend days choosing cover images, type, paper quality, formats, gloss or matt etc, etc which can have you quite disillusioned when over 95% of sales are downloaded. The cover design used to be as important as the contents, now it's not so high on the agenda. Most of the booksellers have really cut down on shelf space too even well known authors aren't given the presence they used to enjoy.

All initial print runs are limited now as well. Global releases will see a run of 2000 per language there is no stock, reprints are by order only. Take amazon, unless you buy from a used seller 99% of their printed media is produced per order in any language straight off the press into the mail packaging.

Another area which has also taken a bit of a hit is audible narration thanks mainly to the likes of Amazon and Netflix film and TV production, struggling actors are now finding mainstream success and charge four times as much. A certain British actor who was more than willing tripled his price overnight due to a Netflix re boot of a '60's TV sci fi. There is a flip side though as many quality lesser known authors are seeing their work snapped up by the new internet protocol networks as the outlay for their material is far cheaper but is still a life changing sum for the man or woman slaving over their laptop.

 

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Brigitte is right that older people tend to prefer traditional media while younger ones have been brought up in a digital environment insofar as they actually read books/magazines at all! So hard copy is essentially in managed decline.

I normally buy non fiction books in hardcopy as I like to keep them for reference purposes but much of my transient reading is on the Kindle or from the local library as I am a fast reader and can finish a novel in a day or to usually.

I know people who have written books and without exception the rewards have been hopeless for the amount of effort put in. Writing for magazines is better as it usually requires a lot less work and you get paid by the page including space for photos they use. My niche magazine pays me £45 per page and I can knock out a three page report on an event in a couple of hours or so which is good going but of course it only happens several times a year so you couldn't live on it.

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The feature articles are often very interesting.  Less so the “ferry news” regular columns.  Once upon a time, they used to be the only source of information about news in the ferry world and you didn’t mind that it was two months out of date by the time you read it - it was still news to you.  Nowadays it is rare to find something out in the news section that you didn’t aready know.

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20 minutes ago, Gareth said:

The feature articles are often very interesting.  Less so the “ferry news” regular columns.  Once upon a time, they used to be the only source of information about news in the ferry world and you didn’t mind that it was two months out of date by the time you read it - it was still news to you.  Nowadays it is rare to find something out in the news section that you didn’t aready know.

Yes agreed, the stuff in the news sections is way out of date.  I keep up to date on Libby because she is one of  “ours” in Poole, plus anything going on around our neck of the woods.  I get most of my info from Facebook ferry related pages and here.  Nova Star is in this edition of Ships Monthly as well, albeit a tiny square in the news section saying about her entering service.  I have suggested on their Facebook page that they do a feature on her as Ship of the month, she would actually be an interesting ship to cover considerinv her chequered history and seeing as it now appears she is operating ok for Polferries (at last!). She would make good reading as information about her is quite elusive to a lot of people, but no doubt a lot of people in the shipping enthusiast world know who Norman Leader is/was/would have been.  

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2 hours ago, cvabishop said:

I know people who have written books and without exception the rewards have been hopeless for the amount of effort put in.

Have they been published Colin?

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Yes indeed, but they have been in niche markets where the balance between effort put in and sales volumes has not been very good! I think they enjoyed the exercise and its always nice to have a book on the shelf with your name on it but it doesn't feed the family!

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