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40 minutes ago, neilcvx said:

There’s a fatal flaw with the position of that TV.

 

25 minutes ago, Cabin-boy said:

The Irish obviously take the phrase 'I'll be glad to see the back of the TV during the holidays' seriously. Ed. 

Forgot to mention that there are 2 tvs in the cabin 🤣

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To be fair to them, the IF website does say 'TV conectee 101cm/81cm...'. But it doesn't make it clear if that's one size or the other (depending on the cabin) or a brace of TVs, one on each side of the partition. Ed. 

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Hope the TV’s last.....

Remember MSM? When it was first launched flat screens everywhere, then one by one they were reduced, and replaced by nice wooden boards, some permanently  shipboard vibrations taking their toll.

Regular repair and replacement is the order of the day now both on MSM and on Normandie.

Great for hotels and Homes, but not sure ruggedised ones are available for Ferries! 

 

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Sorry but she just looks cheap and cheerful to me, there's nothing to shout Flagship... bland, characterless and nondescript. Just another volume hauling RoPax with not much emphasis on the cruise but very much a ferry... Mind you when your benchmark for passengers is Ulysses or a Visentini you don't need to make much of an effort to raise the bar...

The teal coloured seating in the cafe looks well used already. The footer on the bed end is poorly conceived, unless your 5ft 8ins, not to mention the metal arms of the cabin chair... I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that during a stormy Irish Sea crossing, there's enough stuff aboard to injure a passenger without needlessly adding to them in a confined space.

Harsh? Maybe but the decor is very depressing... who needs grey skies?

 She's top end for the meagre price they paid but highlights why the best cruise ferries cost nearly twice as much. 

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She doesn't seem to be wowing the public or enthusiasts, seems rather bland all round.  Very odd mix of short-sea and overnight features! Wonder how much those forward facing balconies will actually be used?

Bit of shame when an Isle of Wight ferry has more wow factor than a cruise ferry!

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I also would have thought the top level lounge bar would have been bigger and more impressive. Does any live entertainment happen here I wonder?

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One of the posters at the IF forum said this back in February :

One thing I realised last week was that there is no live entertainment mentioned for the summer crossings nor is there an obvious live entertainment lounge like the Gaiety Lounge or the Piano Bar on the Oscar Wilde.

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Was it Pont l’abbe that had that mixture of green outside decks and seats like that? Maybe they are going for the retro look?

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2 hours ago, VikingVoyager said:

She looks pretty smart to me. Modern and understated compared to a lot of other cruise ferries in the region.

That's hit the nail on the head, modern and understated which translates to cheap and minimalist the rest in the region are all just business too, not much effort was required so not much effort was made... 

The only cruise ferry sailing the Irish sea was Oscar Wilde.Yes I know...she's similar to an ageing singer from a mid 80's bar in West Berlin named Leisle squeezed into an undersized girdle but she still had a bit of class and style and could carry a tune.

WBY's interior looks like a new build hospital... from Potsdamer Platz not long after the wall came down.

It's why BF get the business they do. They attempt to offer passengers what they want rather than what they think they can get away with. More thought went into Pont Aven's Commodore lounge with it's pseudo '30's art deco styling. I'd even prefer to spend my time on deck 10 of Baie du Seine.

Proper cruise ferries look like this.

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Note the modern cabin ceilings fitted with air con & LED lighting, not the 40 year old vents and halogens on the WBY cabin which could easily be taken for a standard refurbishment given to any ferry.

This is a cabin on a ferry which is 25 years old. I know where I'd rather spend my time.

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I feel the same about Irish Ferries' new build as many members do about BF's new website.

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9 hours ago, jonno said:

Sorry but she just looks cheap and cheerful to me, there's nothing to shout Flagship... bland, characterless and nondescript. Just another volume hauling RoPax with not much emphasis on the cruise but very much a ferry... Mind you when your benchmark for passengers is Ulysses or a Visentini you don't need to make much of an effort to raise the bar...

The teal coloured seating in the cafe looks well used already. The footer on the bed end is poorly conceived, unless your 5ft 8ins, not to mention the metal arms of the cabin chair... I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that during a stormy Irish Sea crossing, there's enough stuff aboard to injure a passenger without needlessly adding to them in a confined space.

Harsh? Maybe but the decor is very depressing... who needs grey skies?

 She's top end for the meagre price they paid but highlights why the best cruise ferries cost nearly twice as much. 

Agree with most of that cept the bed is fine. I'm over 6ft tall and spelt comfortably in it. My biggest gripe about the WB Yeats is the lack of outside deck space. The only outside space is on deck 11. And the available seating amounts wouldn't seat more than 60

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The WBY fitout certainly wasn't done on the cheap - a lower budget than BF usually spend per sq/m (except for Armorique) but not cheap. But I do feel her accommodation may work better on the shorter sailings than the longer ones she'll be doing.
 

Having had a look at both of the balcony suites during a moderately rough crossing, when the furniture had all been moved inside to keep it from being covered in sea salt, the exterior doors were rattling noisily and it was impossible to stand upright outside without being blown around, it's fair to say that without modification they may not fulfil all the customers' expectations of them.

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2 hours ago, hhvferry said:

The WBY fitout certainly wasn't done on the cheap

I think you're being a little generous, in today's maritime marketplace she was cheap for a new build so called super ferry, The contrast with Armorique is an interesting one as the extra 30m euros WBY cost would probably be what another Roscoff RoPax would be... The Arm' was 110m euros 13 years ago. 

The cafe looks like a drivers lounge, the area where we see the snail trail flooring looks like something from the 1990's and the bed end above the towels even shows where the countersunk screws are, for the latter i've seen better quality in entry level caravans.

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6 hours ago, jonno said:

I think you're being a little generous, in today's maritime marketplace she was cheap for a new build so called super ferry, The contrast with Armorique is an interesting one as the extra 30m euros WBY cost would probably be what another Roscoff RoPax would be... The Arm' was 110m euros 13 years ago.  

The cost of the build was cheap; the cost of the fitout, a relatively small part of the total cost, wasn't. That's with reference to the designer used and the quality of the fixtures etc in most parts (the standard cabins are a little spartan).

The look of the end result may not be to everyone's taste but the accomodation was not done to a particularly tight budget.

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3 hours ago, hhvferry said:

the cost of the fitout, a relatively small part of the total cost, wasn't.

I'll certainly go along with that... Maybe it's because IF didn't use a specialised maritime outfitter, that way it may have resulted in furnishings and decor which will be up to the job, cheaper too.

They used Minima, an online & highstreet domestic department store. One who are very good at overcharging for furniture and decor which can invariably be sourced for a lot less elsewhere. I looked at a Bauhaus chess set by Naef Spiele which they are selling for £455... It's £150 on Amazon.de. It's the same with their designer sofas... mass produced of course, one they sell for £10k is 4 grand less elsewhere. Even the Conran shop are less expensive and you're still paying through the nose.

Also, when you look at the furniture closely it's not even really designed for the rigours of a family household far less the public areas and cabins of a cross channel ferry. It's lightweight with a designer label and price, purpose built for those with more money than sense. Stuff from Oak Furniture Land would stand up to the daily attentions of passengers better.

Would you employ a high street shop to supply your spanking new multi million euro ship with furniture or would you stick with the tried, tested & trusted creations that maritime designers have been working on for decades?

I fear internally she's going to wear rapidly then they'll be off to someone like Scanmarine.

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52 minutes ago, Cabin-boy said:

Thanks. Yeah I saw that and commented before... an exceptionally large number of high-end cabins/cabin types I thought for her purpose...

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23 hours ago, jonno said:

It's why BF get the business they do

Hmmm... not sure that's the 100% the case.

I'd say it's much less about their ships and much more because they've stuck it out and continued to offer the routes that people want. Some of those routes must be marginal, especially throughout the year, but their funding structure and "raisin of etcetera" means they are still there when others have fallen away. 

The pictures you showed were mostly very nice (which vessel?), though as always, bolder designs can date very quickly.  However, I'd be more than happy on WB Yeats for an overnight crossing at the start of my holiday.  I wouldn't pay a premium for higher fit-out though I would pay for reliability, safety, punctuality and cabin space.

I suspect most passengers are even more price driven and have only a casual interest in the ships. They'll be aware if a vessel is old / small / cramped / lacking certain key facilities but beyond that I suspect their interest wains.  

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1 hour ago, hf_uk said:

an exceptionally large number of high-end cabins/cabin types I thought for her purpose...

It did win a couple of awards https://www.fsg-ship.de/wordpress/fsg-receives-another-prestigious-award-for-the-ropax-vessel-w-b-yeats/

I am sure that Irish Ferries had their eyes on future plans when they specified it and it is more in keeping with overnight crossings to Cherbourg and possibly Spain, it is not that well suited to UK routes.

 

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