Gareth Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, jonno said: What would BAI replace NEX with? Come on Jonno, you already know my answer to that question! 🤣😉 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TonyMWeaver Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 NEX will be gone in 3 or 4 years, Liberation is there to stay. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Le Quiberon Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Ben My Chree is perfect for a Channel Island service IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
Gareth Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 BMC is a horrible ship. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
hhvferry Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Gareth said: BMC is a horrible ship. She's by some distance the worst of those four near sisters, a real bargain basement mess of a ship - and getting on a bit now as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan_H Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 10 hours ago, hhvferry said: She's by some distance the worst of those four near sisters, a real bargain basement mess of a ship - and getting on a bit now as well. If you were sailing to the Isle of Man, would you choose the Mannanan (assuming it is running) instead? Is it a case of the lesser of two evils?! Link to post Share on other sites
Gareth Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, Ryan_H said: If you were sailing to the Isle of Man, would you choose the Mannanan (assuming it is running) instead? Is it a case of the lesser of two evils?! The discussion is about the merits or otherwise of Condor acquiring BMC to run alongside Clipper. But as far as IoMSP is concerned, I would say she is the least enjoyable ship that I have sailed to the island aboard. I agree that the choice between the current pair is a non-choice, but the eras of the Manx Maid pair, Monas Queen pair, and even the second hand Tynwald and King Orry were far superior to what the Steam Packet offers today. Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Gareth said: the eras of the Manx Maid pair, Monas Queen pair, and even the second hand Tynwald and King Orry were far superior to what the Steam Packet offers today. I agree and I'm looking forward to see what IOMSP come up with to replace Ben My Chree. I think two new build conventional ferries is being discussed. 4 hours ago, Ryan_H said: If you were sailing to the Isle of Man, would you choose the Mannanan (assuming it is running) instead? Is it a case of the lesser of two evils?! Mannanan is versatile and has been configured specifically for the I.O.M route having an added deck to carry more motorcycle passengers for the TT. She's also aged better as the U.S Navy used her quite sparingly. She's proved a popular and reliable vessel over her 11 years of service. Link to post Share on other sites
colin Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 hours ago, jonno said: I agree and I'm looking forward to see what IOMSP come up with to replace Ben My Chree. I think two new build conventional ferries is being discussed. Mannanan is versatile and has been configured specifically for the I.O.M route having an added deck to carry more motorcycle passengers for the TT. She's also aged better as the U.S Navy used her quite sparingly. She's proved a popular and reliable vessel over her 11 years of service. And the quality of her conversion and fit out in UK makes the work done on the Liberation look a bit shabby.... Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Hyde Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 10/03/2020 at 07:21, Gareth said: BMC is a horrible ship. Totally agree. Clipper although a near is far superior in terms of onboard decor and fittings. Been on both myself. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
VikingVoyager Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 My overriding memory of BMC is the smell of fried food. Of Mannanan it's the feeling of nausea and watching many big biker dudes losing their breakfast while a heavily pregnant Mrs VV looked serenely on.. Link to post Share on other sites
Cabin-boy Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 10/03/2020 at 22:28, hhvferry said: She's by some distance the worst of those four near sisters, a real bargain basement mess of a ship - and getting on a bit now as well. What was the fourth one? I obviously know about The Clipper, BMC and Canterbury operating with the NZ Navy but what's the other one? Ed. Link to post Share on other sites
hhvferry Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Cabin-boy said: What was the fourth one? I obviously know about The Clipper, BMC and Canterbury operating with the NZ Navy but what's the other one? Ed. I meant the four ferries based on that version of the VDG hull design - Ben, Clipper, the current Stena Vinga and the current Straitsman. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gareth Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, Cabin-boy said: What was the fourth one? I obviously know about The Clipper, BMC and Canterbury operating with the NZ Navy but what's the other one? Ed. Stena Jutlandica? Link to post Share on other sites
Cabin-boy Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gareth said: Stena Jutlandica? She's a close sister of Inishmore I think but not one of the quadruplets. Ed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
The Ferry Man Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Other than the BMC and Clipper you have the Straitsman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Straitsman_(2005) And Stena Vinga https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stena_Vinga Formerly the Hammerodde and Deuodde https://www.ship-technology.com/projects/hammerodde/ 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
VikingVoyager Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 13/03/2020 at 06:34, The Ferry Man said: Other than the BMC and Clipper you have the Straitsman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Straitsman_(2005) And Stena Vinga https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stena_Vinga Formerly the Hammerodde and Deuodde https://www.ship-technology.com/projects/hammerodde/ And the NMNZS Canterbury, mentioned by Cabin Boy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMNZS_Canterbury_(L421) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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