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Does Elizabeth have her full set of F-35s' yet? I know she has done trials, but was just wondering, with all the Iran stuff - is she actually of any use yet, or still awaiting?

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Does Elizabeth have her full set of F-35s' yet? I know she has done trials, but was just wondering, with all the Iran stuff - is she actually of any use yet, or still awaiting?

QE is not due to deploy operationally until early 2021 unless Dominic Cummings has her scrapped first...😟

The RN/RAF are gradually building up a stock of F35 jets but they are a bit expensive(!) so we can't afford many. The ships may deploy with helicopters to make up the balance initially but with a defence review imminent it is difficult to say what will happen.

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The UK has comitted to buying 138 of them, in various versions. Some already operational with 617 Squadron RAF at Marham which has already been embarked on the QE. The fleet air arm`s are still to be delivered..So not bad going.

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5 hours ago, nodwad said:

Are the aircraft carriers still docked in Portsmouth,we sail out of Portsmouth Sunday and have not seen them yet.

They are both due to stay until the end of the month, you'll be ok for photos on Sunday. Fingers crossed the sun doesn't spoil your photos.

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3 hours ago, Paully said:

The UK has comitted to buying 138 of them, in various versions. Some already operational with 617 Squadron RAF at Marham which has already been embarked on the QE. The fleet air arm`s are still to be delivered..So not bad going.

That's right, I think the Dambusters were the first to get them. In half decent weather you can see them popping up in the Nidd Valley training area, the Tiffy's from Leeming are getting livelier too.

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4 hours ago, Paully said:

The UK has comitted to buying 138 of them, in various versions. Some already operational with 617 Squadron RAF at Marham which has already been embarked on the QE. The fleet air arm`s are still to be delivered..So not bad going.

News from Iraq seems to show that drones are more accurate and more deadly. If a drone can target a single car then an enemy one could hardly miss an aircraft carrier.

Are there two aircraft carriers white elephants - and out of date before they even go into service?

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31 minutes ago, wortley said:

News from Iraq seems to show that drones are more accurate and more deadly. If a drone can target a single car then an enemy one could hardly miss an aircraft carrier.

Are there two aircraft carriers white elephants - and out of date before they even go into service?

Yes easy targets,that is why you see a fleet of ships to guard the USA carriers.

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8 minutes ago, wortley said:

Are there two aircraft carriers white elephants - and out of date before they even go into service?

Different tool for a different job. Why risk using a very expensive fighter jet and a very expensively trained pilot for a single missile strike, It's what the drones were designed for as well as PHOTINT - photographic intelligence.

The F35 is a stealth fighter bomber which carries 3 times the firepower of Harrier and a payload equivalent to that of the heaviest WWII Lancaster... at mach 1.6. It would be a bit like using a sledgehammer on a panel pin.

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Drones and PHOTINT eh Jonno? Are you actually Edward Snowden, capturing all our SIGINT and ELINT and reporting back to HQ on the state of the Ferry sector on the Western Channel!? O M G :O 

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