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Looking at the positive side of what is clearly a bad situaton, if the EU insist on tests before travel then at least that will mean the UK putting in place a testing service which is both standardised and officially recognised, thereby eliminating any confusion. 

Yes, the availability of quick tests is likely to become crucial if testing is added to the post Brexit paperwork formalities (pile on the agony).

However there is likely to be lots of extra space to park all the delayed lorries as the UK population will be relocated in the Midlands when the EU sends us all to Coventry.

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We've a young crowd in here today!

It will be pasta and rice next, how have they got through the stockpiles from March?

Thanks everyone! 5 hours in theatre, all done. They misrouted the catheter and can't get a new one in. Pray I manage to pee before 10pm or the stick a pronged tube through my stomach.

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1 hour ago, cvabishop said:

UK population will be relocated in the Midlands when the EU sends us all to Coventry.

Hi Colin

I will reciprocate the offer of your shed which you made to me. Mine is available to you. Just need to clear enough space for a bed. (could take a day or two). Is Leicester close enough to Coventry?

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It seems Boris Johnson is planning a press conference for later this afternoon. Obviously no-one will be allowed to ask any intelligent questions, but there you go!

On the R4 lunchtime news they had a medical specialist saying that the whole of the UK should be in Tier 4 before Christmas unless they want to see an explosion in hospital cases and deaths in January. Let's just hope Boris wasn't listening.

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6 minutes ago, Cabin-boy said:

Obviously no-one will be allowed to ask any intelligent questions,

They can ask whatever questions they want, however the main broadcast ‘Journalists’ just want to ask a simple question that gets a repeated answer that they can use on the news showing them as a key part of the press conference. The better questions are asked by the more specialist part of the print media.

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3 hours ago, cvabishop said:

Sorry Ian, shed is no longer available, it has been designated as a vaccination centre on a one in, one out basis...😀

I've got a barn in Tier 1 if that's any use. Could be quite christmassy with a donkey or two.

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Today is President Macron’s 43rd birthday. Obviously he’s spending it in isolation so to cheer him up let’s all sing a song I just wrote:

 

Happy Birthday to You,

Happy Birthday to You,
Happy Birthday dear President,
Happy Birthday to You.

 

Happy Birthday to You,

There’s not much one can do,

Just lie back and relax,

Happy Birthday to You

 

Happy Birthday to You,

Does it feel like the flu?

Don’t rush back to work just yet,

Happy Birthday to You.


Happy Birthday to You,

We can manage without you,

And you might be contagious,

Happy Birthday to You,

 

Happy Birthday to You,

Did I hear you atchoo?

I’d give it at least one more week,

Happy Birthday to You,

 

Happy Birthday to You,

If you need another tissue,

We’ll send Castex to Carrefour,

Happy Birthday to You,

 

Happy Birthday to You,

I’m sure you’ll pull through,

Just make sure not to infect Brigitte,

Happy Birthday to You.

 

Ed

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1 hour ago, BobCrox said:

I've got a barn in Tier 1 if that's any use. Could be quite christmassy with a donkey or two.

Hope your neighbours are not reading this. Or is it in the middle of Bodmin (we have relations who farm in that area)

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Clearly one of the late onset symptoms of COVID is loss of modesty.

Here is a report from BFMTV concerning an interview Macron has given. He judges that France's second lockdown was a 'model of efficiency' (as opposed to an economic and social disaster) and that they took the decision at 'just the right moment' (surely mid-September would have been better for everyone) and succeeded in 'breaking the chain of transmission' (until he came back from Brussels with more than just a Manneken Pis keyring).

The man is delusional and so out of touch with reality he probably still thinks Santa Clause exists.

Enjoy!...

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Macron juge que "le deuxième confinement est un exemple d'efficacité"

Emmanuel Macron fait le bilan de la deuxième vague de l'épidémie. Dans une longue interview accordée à L'Express, le président de la République estime que "le deuxième confinement est un exemple d'efficacité car nous avons pris la décision au bon moment".

"Nous l'avons expliqué, les Françaises et les Français ont agi et, par leur action, ont réussi à casser le cycle du virus", affirme le chef de l'État.

Si Emmanuel Macron se dit cependant "très prudent" et appelle à "rester humbler", il juge que "nous sommes l'un des pays européens qui se porte le mieux face à cette épidémie à ce stade". "Et cela grâce à l'action, la cohérence, et à un travail d'explication qui refuse l'espèce d'hyper simplification à la mode."

 

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17 minutes ago, David Williams said:

He probably thinks that banning freight is a good idea as well so we have the European drivers who would normally be returning back to the continent quickly with minimal contact having to wait in Kent together for a few days - very sensible !

SuperU have said this morning that it might lead to a shortage of shellfish on Christmas dinner tables over here. Presumably the Elysee has plenty of caviar in stock so it's not a problem for Macron. 

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17 minutes ago, David Williams said:

He probably thinks that banning freight is a good idea as well so we have the European drivers who would normally be returning back to the continent quickly with minimal contact having to wait in Kent together for a few days - very sensible !

SuperU have said this morning that it might lead to a shortage of shellfish on Christmas dinner tables over here. Presumably the Elysee has plenty of caviar in stock so it's not a problem for Macron. 

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2 minutes ago, Cabin-boy said:

SuperU have said this morning that it might lead to a shortage of shellfish on Christmas dinner tables over here. Presumably the Elysee has plenty of caviar in stock so it's not a problem for Macron. 

Ed

Thankfully most of what our Super U sells is landed locally, albeit often fished in Channel Islands waters .... but that is another story.

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8 minutes ago, colin said:

Thankfully most of what our Super U sells is landed locally, albeit often fished in Channel Islands waters .... but that is another story.

Yes that's the advantage you have up there. I think it was a national level issue being reported but obviously it's a worry for the supermarkets who have advance orders to fulfil. 

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On 20/12/2020 at 11:24, Shipping Forecast said:

One of the most worrying aspects of all of this is the loss of traditional freedoms and free speech in main stream channels, coupled with the manipulation / propaganda. People who ask legitimate questions or have alternatives ideas / points of view for getting us out of this situation are being sidelined.

I agree to an extent, though if you listen to a decent news programme, you will hear dissenting voices. On the other hand, look what happened when equal air time (and implied validity) was given to both sides of debates on Brexit / Climate Change. The conspiracy theories about Covid are truly shocking, both in their stupidity and level of belief.

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Rapid testing of the drivers at a site a considerable distance from the ports to avoid congestion (on both sides of the channel) needs to be set up as soon as possible. If you can get the results back in 30 minutes then that will be fine, I guess. But then the question arises of what to do with those who test positive. Where do you put them for a week or more, who interprets for those who don't speak English or French, what happens to their cargo? This is going to be complicated. 

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What I cannot get my head around when the tier 4 came out regarding London and the south east.was there nobody in authority not understand what would happen when this was announced?just before Xmas and human nature said let's go now before we are stopped.i think if I was one of them I may of bolted myself because there is many thousands of people who travel down to London and the south east to work.so weekend come and the trains ,buses,cars are all heading out f London and south east to get home and that is precisely what they did but nobody in authority could see this.shambolic comes to mind ,I will stop now before I start saying things I might get a red card for it.so all of you out have a merry Xmas and happy new year and stay safe.

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