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Cafes, bars and restaurants can reopen.

Cultural and sporting activities can progressively restart. 

More schools and colleges will reopen.

Most businesses still closed can reopen but not nightclubs etc for the moment. 

Ed.

 

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Beaches, swimming-pools, lakes, parks, museums and monuments will all reopen next week. 

Theme-parks can also reopen. 

Theatres and other indoor public spaces can reopen next week but cinemas will wait until the 22 June. 

Ed. 

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Didn't pick up yet whether 1m social distancing rule still applies generally? Cinemas? Restos etc 1m between tables which I guess means between the people at adjacent tables?

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9 minutes ago, colin said:

Didn't pick up yet whether 1m social distancing rule still applies generally? Cinemas? Restos etc 1m between tables which I guess means between the people at adjacent tables?

I don't think he mentioned it, so presumably it still applies.

Cinemas are still trying to work out a solution I think and restaurants need to leave a 1-metre gap between tables.  

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3 minutes ago, Cabin-boy said:

restaurants need to leave a 1-metre gap between tables.

If it means between the actual square, rectangular or round tables it makes no sense. We should see the details of the décret this weekend.

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1 hour ago, Cabin-boy said:

Theatres and other indoor public spaces can reopen next week but cinemas will wait until the 22 June.

This sounds promising for the on-board experience that BF may be able to offer from late June.

Thanks for the updates, Ed.

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2 hours ago, Cabin-boy said:

I don't think he mentioned it, so presumably it still applies.

Cinemas are still trying to work out a solution I think and restaurants need to leave a 1-metre gap between tables.  

Ed. 

Thanks Ed, strong work there, I lost track quite early on.

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1 hour ago, Choucan said:

This sounds promising for the on-board experience that BF may be able to offer from late June.

Thanks for the updates, Ed.

Having read the DFDS plans other bit I don't think the on-board experience on any ferry or cruise ship will be particularly pleasant.

Plastic dividing screens, masks, one way systems, limited food options, no buffets, limited entertainment, closure of kids clubs, some parts of the casino just to name a few - it seems to be the way we are heading and it is not good.

Only positive outcomes will be less crowded ships and better cleanliness and hygiene but out on deck will probably be the best place to be.

I was planning on doing a repeat of my Baltic trip but am now thinking about doing a solo cruise where I can spend alot of my time confined to my balcony with cabin as I just love being at sea. There are some amazing short cruise deals out there right now.....

L'Q.

 

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38 minutes ago, Le Quiberon said:

Plastic dividing screens, masks, one way systems, limited food options, no buffets, limited entertainment, closure of kids clubs, some parts of the casino just to name a few - it seems to be the way we are heading and it is not good.

There are some amazing short cruise deals out there right now..

In these circumstances, I am still wondering how BF will handle discountiing to get people back on board. There are some great competing peak season deals with airlines and the Tunnel. Why pay a premium price for a non-premium service? But if social distancing only allows BF to carry about 50% of normal passengers in peak season, this will be a big hit on revenues - fewer people at lower prices in peak season. So perhaps it will make no economic sense to reintroduce the whole fleet back to service?

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In these circumstances, I am still wondering how BF will handle discountiing to get people back on board. There are some great competing peak season deals with airlines and the Tunnel. Why pay a premium price for a non-premium service? But if social distancing only allows BF to carry about 50% of normal passengers in peak season, this will be a big hit on revenues - fewer people at lower prices in peak season. So perhaps it will make no economic sense to reintroduce the whole fleet back to service?

I fear it's a no-win situation for them.

As you say, they either reduce prices to entice people onboard, and not make a profit due to the reduced numbers or keep the prices to a profit-making level, which will, especially considering the service being enforced, may well still mean not so many people travel.

Which option is the least damaging?

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We know Jet2 are starting a full service at the beginning of July to fly to Spain & Italy which means there will be no self distancing at the airports or on the aircraft. 

Why should anyone believe the ferries will be any different?

 

 

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The 1 metre rule is the recommendation of the WHO and in reality is close to the distance a lot of people were apart post Covid anyway. The French have realised that if they persist much longer with Queues and lockdown their economy would retreat to the Fred Flintstone age. They are allowing relaxation hotels/bars etc only in the green areas, which is most of France. We`ll be by Fred`s side by August but still miles apart and Queing for everything, despite scientific evidence to the contrary. Anyway seriously planning our French Holiday for late August now.

  If BF adopt their native rules for the carriage of passengers then business might be better than they could have hoped for. A better experience for the Pax as well, still maintaining sensibility without rigidity and people getting on with life and accepting that itself is a risk. 

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22 hours ago, jonno said:

We know Jet2 are starting a full service at the beginning of July to fly to Spain & Italy which means there will be no self distancing at the airports or on the aircraft. 

Why should anyone believe the ferries will be any different?

 

 

Maybe because more countries will follow Greece’s lead? Thankfully BF don’t sail there though.

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/may/29/britain-left-off-safe-list-of-countries-free-to-holiday-in-greece

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This isn’t really relevant to this thread (vaguely maybe), but thought that I’d mention it anyway.

We live in an area in southern France which could be seen as quite ‘touristy’.   Plenty of 2nd home Dutch, Belgian & German families, to say nothing of French from all over.  The (effective) end of travel restrictions isn’t until Tuesday 2nd and for ‘foreign’ incomers 15/6 (subject to ....)

As a resident down here, you notice vehicles which aren’t around most of the time.  More than a few over the last 3-4 weeks, from all those places !   The market today was much busier than usual, with plenty of ‘out of area’ plates.  Loads of Parisians.

Don’t get me wrong - good for the local economy & hopefully risk free.   But more than a few of them have been ‘jumping the gun’.

Doubt that there was anything to stop them really.

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1 hour ago, Gardian said:

This isn’t really relevant to this thread (vaguely maybe), but thought that I’d mention it anyway.

We live in an area in southern France which could be seen as quite ‘touristy’.   Plenty of 2nd home Dutch, Belgian & German families, to say nothing of French from all over.  The (effective) end of travel restrictions isn’t until Tuesday 2nd and for ‘foreign’ incomers 15/6 (subject to ....)

As a resident down here, you notice vehicles which aren’t around most of the time.  More than a few over the last 3-4 weeks, from all those places !   The market today was much busier than usual, with plenty of ‘out of area’ plates.  Loads of Parisians.

Don’t get me wrong - good for the local economy & hopefully risk free.   But more than a few of them have been ‘jumping the gun’.

Doubt that there was anything to stop them really.

On that point is it not just the same in the uk?people are now not taking it seriously after the fiasco of the past week or so.just pray thst there is not a second wave of the virus in which we all should be worried about ,never mind about holidays to France,Spain etc.we should all be trying to eradicate this virus to our best ability .to me holiday season 2020 should be the furthest thing in all our minds at the currant time.hope you all keep safe out there.

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It was worse than a fiasco it was a disaster. It seems that amongst the more stupid echelons of UK government there seems no realisation that the events of last weekend changed everything. It's not a question of anybody taking it seriously or not it's more basic than that. It's seen as a matter of fairness and justice. Also and it has to be said if people took the view that anything was better than the way they'd been living over the past twelve weeks I might not agree but I'd also view it as perfectly rational. As my dad who's just 90 said on the phone the other day - we weren't this panic stricken during the war. And he lived in Bristol.

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If you had been looking round comments sections/social media etc you would have seen Q fatigue had set in quite some time before the Blackford/Kinnock/Cummins debacle. Its called human nature. We live in a society that will knuckle down for a period of time in an emergency but sooner or later it wears off.  If it had been awful typical UK weather things would be different. But that, I submit, is the causation factor not the folly of the few. That I`m sure is the reason Macron has eased back on conditions in France, he`s recognised the human fraility and how the spirit reacts. We all have to accept that life is a gamble, we cut back on the risks of course but we have to surf in the direction it takes us. 

Oh yes I can recommend turning the UK TV News off..It allows the blood pressure to return to normal readings..As I said cut the risks to health.

Keep safe everyone every day..

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16 minutes ago, Paully said:

If you had been looking round comments sections/social media etc you would have seen Q fatigue had set in quite some time before the Blackford/Kinnock/Cummins debacle.

Two of those are not the same as the other despite the attempts to pretend they are.

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