ZinedineBiscan Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, colinschandler said: Glad to see that having come from China she appears to be wearing a face mask! Looks like parcel tape holding her together, which shows really how much work is needed 😉 Link to post Share on other sites
Cabin-boy Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fine Whine said: schnurrbart That should be spelt with a capital 'S' as it's a noun. Ed Link to post Share on other sites
Fine Whine Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cabin-boy said: That should be spelt with a capital 'S' as it's a noun. Ed Jawohl Herr Kommandant Chris Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, David Williams said: If she had come from China, she would have been completed a year ago ! Glad you covered that before Tony did , would have been hell to pay . Link to post Share on other sites
IanN Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 59 minutes ago, ZinedineBiscan said: Looks like parcel tape holding her together, which shows really how much work is needed Like most of the kit in a lot of factories. It holds guards in place also useful for attaching a a guide. Used on old safety shoes to hold the sole in place it has a multitude of uses. Was amazed once when visiting a Nissan Door Seal supplier in Japan not a piece of brown tape in sight Link to post Share on other sites
RickOShea Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 It's a very bespoke ship so without major reconfiguration isn't ideal for that many routes. Her lane metres aren't massive for a busier freight route. Equally, she has too much passenger accommodation for a true ropax route. Her berth numbers mean she isn't that suitable for a longer overnight route. Corsica springs to mind... Link to post Share on other sites
VikingVoyager Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 How about Fishguard?! I bet they never fill the cabins on Stena Europe. Or, if they could add a few more cabins, she could work in tandem with a freighter on Hull Zeebrugge. They'd just need to add a river berth or shave a few metres of each side for the lock. I'd be willing to accept a downgrade in standards if it kept the route open in the summer 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Khaines Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Notice in the photo her name is covered up apart from the first two letters so she has the charming name of “Ho” 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Khaines Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, Khaines said: Notice in the photo her name is covered up apart from the first two letters so she has the charming temporary name of “Ho” 😂 Link to post Share on other sites
David Williams Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Khaines said: Notice in the photo her name is covered up apart from the first two letters so she has the charming name of “Ho” 😂 Must be going to Plymouth then ps and yes Ed I know it is a different spelling ! Edited November 2, 2020 by David Williams Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 5 hours ago, RickOShea said: It's a very bespoke ship so without major reconfiguration isn't ideal for that many routes. Her lane metres aren't massive for a busier freight route. Equally, she has too much passenger accommodation for a true ropax route. Her berth numbers mean she isn't that suitable for a longer overnight route. Corsica springs to mind... She has 2600 full height lane metres which will be more or less the same as the next two E - Flexers for BF and she was to have over 800 berths in 260 cabins. what's bespoke about that? If this would mean that she'd be unsuitable for a longer overnight crossing, Cap Finistere must be a terrible experience - which of course she isn't. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
colinschandler Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 10 hours ago, David Williams said: If she had come from China, she would have been completed a year ago ! Sorry David. got confused with nice new shiny ship that recently showed herself off in Plymouth! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Macc2010 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Tony someone else asked on here but got no answer so did you get permission from the person who took the photo to put it on here? it may be wise to Quote on the post with photo who gave you permission(if they did) their name. Link to post Share on other sites
RickOShea Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 17 hours ago, jonno said: She has 2600 full height lane metres which will be more or less the same as the next two E - Flexers for BF and she was to have over 800 berths in 260 cabins. what's bespoke about that? If this would mean that she'd be unsuitable for a longer overnight crossing, Cap Finistere must be a terrible experience - which of course she isn't. She is very purpose built for Portsmouth - Caen. This is actually why previous ships like the NORMANDIE and MONT ST MICHEL have been so successful as they are really tailored to the market. The number of berths Vs passenger capacity is totally insufficient for a longer overnight crossing but fine for a short overnight crossing where many are fine with a reclining seat. Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 hours ago, RickOShea said: The number of berths Vs passenger capacity is totally insufficient for a longer overnight crossing but fine for a short overnight crossing where many are fine with a reclining seat. I understand the point you're making in terms of finding a balance between day & night sailings but to state that ships like this are totally insufficient for a longer crossing isn't accurate. The operator simply sells the berth /cabin capacity like they do on the Visentini's & BF's Superfast. Cap Finistere was built to carry 1600 passengers although with BF she's only operated with an 856 capacity. It's the same with the Visentini's which were built to carry in excess of 1000 pax but carry less than 400. . 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tumnus2010 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) How hard would it be for extra cabins to be added in place of a reclining lounge or something at this stage? Edited November 3, 2020 by Tumnus2010 Link to post Share on other sites
David Williams Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tumnus2010 said: How hard would it be for extra cabins to be added in place of a reclining lounge or something at this stage? They won't do anything but the basics to the current layout until they have a client, then modifications can be made. I recall FSG saying that the hull had been specially designed with Ouistreham in mind ! Link to post Share on other sites
Gareth Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Does she have an internal ramp? Link to post Share on other sites
Eddies Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Looking at my pic's which I took from the web cam, I'd say yes. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Aiden Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I took pictures everyday on the webcam ill make a video of it and put it on here when i can Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Gareth said: Does she have an internal ramp? She has port & starboard hoistable ramps which were fitted prior to her launch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 https://www.niferry.co.uk/cancelled-honfleur-leaves-flensburg-for-norway/ If you scroll down Steve's page above you can see two of the hoistable decks/ramps. Link to post Share on other sites
Gareth Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Well, that adds considerably to her versatility. Without one, she’d be about as useful away from Portsmouth-Caen as Pride of Dover and Pride of Calais were away from Dover-Calais. Link to post Share on other sites
RickOShea Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, jonno said: I understand the point you're making in terms of finding a balance between day & night sailings but to state that ships like this are totally insufficient for a longer crossing isn't accurate. The operator simply sells the berth /cabin capacity like they do on the Visentini's & BF's Superfast. Cap Finistere was built to carry 1600 passengers although with BF she's only operated with an 856 capacity. It's the same with the Visentini's which were built to carry in excess of 1000 pax but carry less than 400. . Yes but both Visentinis and CF are uneasy compromises. Visentinis could probably do with about 100 more cabins when on passenger focussed routes. It's widely known CF would benefit from more cabins. All I was saying is that the Honfleur as currently configured isn't ideal for that many routes. If you had a range of ships in front of you for an 18 hour crossing, she'd be far from top of your agenda. This is the beauty of the e-flexer class, not awe-inspiring ships but can be configured to be a decent fit for almost any route. Edited November 4, 2020 by RickOShea Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 14 hours ago, Gareth said: Does she have an internal ramp? My interpretation of this question is - can you get from the lower vehicle deck to the upper vehicle via a ramp? I do not know the answer but, the subsequent answers demonstrate there are two decks that hoist, in other words, mezzanine decks. These do not transfer vehicles from one deck to another so two-tier loading would still be required. Mezzanine decks allow for two layers of cars in area that would normally have trucks, or not used on quiet sailings. I would be very surprised if they went to the expense of fitting ramps on a vessel that loads in ports with two-tier links spans. Link to post Share on other sites
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