Danish Ferry Person Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 What I would expect is her to be flagged to Dover simply for union reasons until say April time. It's much easier to change the port quickly than it is to change the flag. Flag changes take lots of planning but port changes are easierer because your not changing what laws apply when in international waters (gambling) etc... Surprised the crews haven't protested this move though. After that I would say a change to London and then a move to Baltic. She has no place on the Irish Sea anymore. She is tiny compared to Stena Europe. I would say maybe a new Harwich - Esbjerg from Stena 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites
Danish Ferry Person Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 AIS is showing that Princess Seaways is heading to Newcastle Australia, but clearly an AIS fault. Doubt DFDS have sold her. Princess leaves tomorrow for a ship yard. Any ideas where? Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 What I would expect is her to be flagged to Dover simply for union reasons until say April time. It's much easier to change the port quickly than it is to change the flag. Flag changes take lots of planning but port changes are easierer because your not changing what laws apply when in international waters (gambling) etc... Surprised the crews haven't protested this move though. After that I would say a change to London and then a move to Baltic. She has no place on the Irish Sea anymore. She is tiny compared to Stena Europe. I would say maybe a new Harwich - Esbjerg from Stena  She was rumoured to be replacing Europe for Jan 2015 at Fishguard. Stena Europe's pax capacity is too high for the route although her freight lanes are less.  Malo Seaways/Stena Nordica is longer although narrower but their weight is quite similar. Link to post Share on other sites
Danish Ferry Person Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Crown is off to Landskrona and Princess is laid up in Amsterdam. Link to post Share on other sites
OLAU-fan Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Crown is off to Landskrona and Princess is laid up in Amsterdam.  DFDS Princess Seaways departed from IJmuiden to Newcastle.  According to the Dutch DFDS website: "Dokperiode 2016 KING Seaways - 5 januari t/m 19 januari" "Dokperiode 2016 PRINCESS Seaways - 20 januari t/m 17 februari​"  Link to post Share on other sites
Danish Ferry Person Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016  DFDS Princess Seaways departed from IJmuiden to Newcastle.  According to the Dutch DFDS website: "Dokperiode 2016 KING Seaways - 5 januari t/m 19 januari" "Dokperiode 2016 PRINCESS Seaways - 20 januari t/m 17 februari​"  Where do you think they will go for refit? Link to post Share on other sites
OLAU-fan Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I hope in the country where DFDS get their customer's money from: the UK or the Netherlands, but i am afraid Denmark. Link to post Share on other sites
Danish Ferry Person Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Being Danish, I would hope Denmark. They fly the DK flag so I don't see why they should go any where else. Last time they went to Gdansk though. Link to post Share on other sites
Tumnus2010 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Did they both not spend some time in Amsterdam last year? Is there a dry dock large enough for them there or did they stay in the water? The sailing to Gdansk must cost a bit in fuel alone. I think P and O and Stena both use Keppel Velrome in Rotterdam for their Dutch ships, Zeebrugge P and O tend to go to the Tyne, good that they're putting some money into British businesses. Link to post Share on other sites
Danish Ferry Person Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 last time they both went to Gdansk. Link to post Share on other sites
OLAU-fan Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 DFDS King Seaways had yesterday her scheduled sailing from Newcastle to IJmuiden and was yesterday afternoon involved with a safety training. She sailed this morning from IJmuiden tot Amsterdam. Â At AIS: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:159262/zoom:10 Link to post Share on other sites
Danish Ferry Person Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Is she refitting in Amsterdam? Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 She's still tied to the quay in Amsterdam Link to post Share on other sites
Danish Ferry Person Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Just been told that "DFDS have no plans to extend the new livery to the Amsterdam ships at this time" I think they are planning new investment. Link to post Share on other sites
Gareth Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 She's still tied to the quay in Amsterdam  Poetically, she seems to be moored at the original Tor Line berth at the Coenhaven! The very roots of the history of the DFDS operation to Ijmuiden. Link to post Share on other sites
Gareth Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 King Seaways is still at the Coenhaven berth. Here's a picture of Tor Anglia sitting in that same berth in 1972. If you look at Google Earth you can see that even the building on the right is still there. Â Just a provocative thought.....nothing more than that, nothing serious.....wouldn't it be great if what King Seaways is doing there is undertaking berthing trials! Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Now that would be worth nipping up the A1m for, straight into the heart of Amsterdam. Â I know that at the grand old age of 40 Tor Anglia was still busy but i can't seem to find anything after 2006? Beautiful ship and her sister too. Link to post Share on other sites
Gareth Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I know that at the grand old age of 40 Tor Anglia was still busy but i can't seem to find anything after 2006? Beautiful ship and her sister too. Â Did a little digging. Seems that in September 2010 she ended up on the beach at Aliaga, only to be recused and refloated before the cutting torches got to work. Was renamed Atlas Han and used as an accommodation vessel in eastern Turkey. Last AIS position received from her was in 2012 at a peculiar location in the corner of Azganlik harbour, coordinates 36 deg 40.8N, 36 deg 12.4E. No sign of her in that location on Google Earth and the location looks like it might have been only fit for scrapping. More here: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/of/ships/shipid:282091/shipname:ATLAS%20HAN/mmsi:247350000 Link to post Share on other sites
hhvferry Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The precise coordinates are 36°40'52.5"N 36°12'21.0"E and she served as an accommodation ship.  She is still visible on Google Earth but sadly was reportedly broken up last year. Link to post Share on other sites
jonno Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 49 years, a true testimony to quality. Link to post Share on other sites
Gareth Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Indeed. The satellite imagery thing is interesting - the satellite coverage on the Apple iPad maps must come from different imagery from Google Earth; I had assumed it was the same source data. But I agree you can see her on Google. The Apple imagery must pre-date the Google imagery quite significantly because it shows the area being a bit of harbour backwater, whereas on Google the whole area has been reclaimed and you can see the former Tor Anglia plonked in the middle of dry land! Fascinating, thanks hhv. Â Edit: Ok, discovered something I never knew you could do with Google Earth, that you can go back to earlier imagery. Seems that Apple does use Google Earth imagery but that it is way out of date. The picture on Apple is dated as 2008 by Google. The most recent picture, showing the ship on dry land, is dated January 2015, so if she has been broken up then it will have been within the last year. Edited January 9, 2016 by Gareth Link to post Share on other sites
Danish Ferry Person Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Crown is back to Copenhagen and did not recive a new livery but may have had the Seaways part on the hull removed. Now it's pearl's turn to head off! Â If anyone has the urge to get a flight to Copenhagen tomorrow both Olso - Copenhagen ships will be in Copenhagen at the same time! Link to post Share on other sites
OLAU-fan Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 DFDS King Seaways now sailing from Amsterdam westbound. Link to post Share on other sites
OLAU-fan Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Princess Seaways has carried out her service Newcastle-IJmuiden last night. King Seaways seems to be ready for service two days earlier than scheduled. Since some minutes ago Princess and King chanched position in IJmuiden. Â Should the King do the sailing for the Princess so that Princess goes for docking earlier than the scheduled 20th januar??? Edited January 18, 2016 by OLAU-fan Link to post Share on other sites
OLAU-fan Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 AIS screenprint Link to post Share on other sites
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