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10 hours ago, David Williams said:

I fear that this will get worse, unless the news improves in the next few weeks, more families will switch to UK holidays and more cancellations will follow.

After a few hopeful months I have now accepted defeat and moved our Family Brittany holiday onto to July 2022. The Camp site have kindly given me a full voucher credit and the 3 Ferry crossings have actually worked out at a total saving of £80 over this year's prices for same crossings and cabins. I now have a booking in Cornwall for July so lets all have a good Summer. Of course it may be possible to have a trip in September/October but I will book that the week before depending how things go. We really enjoy our BF crossings so will not let all this trouble put us off using them in the future. 

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MJT, bad choice I am afraid. The Covid infection rate in Cornwall has rocketed up since the G7 circus was here, but is falling in most of France. 

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8 hours ago, mjturner said:

But the Delta Variant is starting to increase??

It's estimated to represent between 2 and 4% of infections right now, up from 1% in late May. The real number may be higher but varient sequencing is far less common in France then the UK although they are increasingly doing so.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societe/sante/covid-19-le-variant-delta-progresse-une-mutation-sous-haute-surveillance-en-france_2153174.amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwjWzNrj-KLxAhUGjhQKHdUjDhIQFjAPegQIJxAC&usg=AOvVaw3DY92VEhOf7x8sFjKVzs_X&ampcf=1

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I "think" that the experience gained in contact tracing and isolating local outbreaks is helping to slow the rise in case numbers of the Delta variant, along with there having been less movement of people from the counties which were affected earliest.

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12 minutes ago, colin said:

I "think" that the experience gained in contact tracing and isolating local outbreaks is helping to slow the rise in case numbers of the Delta variant, along with there having been less movement of people from the counties which were affected earliest.

Yes, I'd agree. The outbreaks seen in Bordeaux and elsewhere a few weeks ago seen to have fizzled out due to surge testing and by trying to vaccinate as many people as possible in the areas concerned (even if that might not have an immediate effect it perhaps encouraged them to get a test before presenting at the vaccination centre).

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18 hours ago, wortley said:

MJT, bad choice I am afraid. The Covid infection rate in Cornwall has rocketed up since the G7 circus was here, but is falling in most of France. 

Also due to the increases in younger age group at the University campus at Penryn

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4 minutes ago, colinschandler said:
18 hours ago, wortley said:

 

Also due to the increases in younger age group at the University campus at Penryn

https://inews.co.uk/news/g7-summit-was-super-spreading-event-for-cornwall-as-cases-rocket-2450-after-johnson-and-biden-visit-1060710

The Penryn students were doing what they had done safely for months. Going to local pubs. Then they met the G7 media in the pubs.

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1 minute ago, BobCrox said:

https://inews.co.uk/news/g7-summit-was-super-spreading-event-for-cornwall-as-cases-rocket-2450-after-johnson-and-biden-visit-1060710

The Penryn students were doing what they had done safely for months. Going to local pubs. Then they met the G7 media in the pubs.

The visiting media, support teams, drafted in police and specialist military personnel were all being tested. Any positive tests would have been recorded as "Cornwall". The numerous "Protest" grroups, most ignoring masks and social distancing, were not being tested but almost certainly contributed to the spread. Now that all have returned from whence they came the numbers will hopefully fall. BUT only if the local hospitality staff and students who also tested positive now isolate until a negative re test. Fortunately up here on Bodmin Moor (St Breward area) we were still showing zero infections last week 

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Oh dear, I fear some of the vessels 'laid' or 'parked' up at present will be well and truly fouled below the waterline after so many months moored. Will any need dry docking for a clean or will they return to service in a fouled condition.

I see Cotentin has not moved since arriving in Le Harvre, is she being repaired where moored or are the repairs being deferred until BF need the ship again? When does the charter for Pelican run out as if they have little other work for her Cotentin could take over that route and all work then being 'in house' so to speak.

Just a couple of random thoughts from an old codger.

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Just a brief comment on PA from Spain  on Thursday if anybody is interested. Loading was quick once started but only about 1/2 of Deck 3 used. Only about four HGV's. Please for the sake of others make sure all your paperwork is ready. some seemed to be having problems with their phones. Mainly Snow Birds onboard but everybody seemed to be socialising. (Sod Covid seemed to be the general attitude). Approximately an hour and twenty minutes to clear custom's and I guess we were about in the middle of the queue. Only three border force points open. God help us if PA is ever full again. The M5 was a nightmare 6 1/2 hours to get to Leicester. Good look if you are heading to or from Devon/Cornwall.

We both had a call from the Covid Stasi this morning not native English speakers and difficult to understand. The one who called the wife didn't seem to be able to read her details from whatever screen they were using.  

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16 hours ago, David Williams said:

St Malo is currently showing full this summer, not sure if that is bad news or just them moving bookings to the Amorique.

I think the latter. We've moved our crossing over from Roscoff and BF said it would take a while for the booking to transfer to Armorique. We haven't had that notification yet.

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Update on this. I checked just now and our booking is now showing Armorique and not Bretagne on St Malo, pleased to see our club plus has also transferred over. Now we just have to hope they'll let us in!

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From the website                                                                                                                                  First sailing

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*Armorique replacing Bretagne
(20 July St Malo - Portsmouth at 10:30 up to and including 12 September Portsmouth - St Malo at 20:15

Pont-Aven.  still operating......         Roscoff/Plymouth/Roscoff

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4 hours ago, steveg9 said:

Would it be even courteous for BF to clarify? Every possible crossing Ply-Rosc just shows as fully booked!

BF use the "fully booked" term as an instant method to prevent passengers booking a crossing until they can amend all the affected time tables . The CEO's message on their website explained all of the crossings that would be affected due to change of the UK government roadmap. The PA's crossings were not affected.

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I wish Brittany Ferries wouldn't use "Sailing full" to describe sailings which have been cancelled / changed. It is just so dishonest to imply that the sailings are so busy that all places have been sold and this further undermines trust in the company. Why not just say "Not available"?

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6 minutes ago, Altranter said:

Why not just say "Not available"?

I think that such an announcement runs the risk of people with reservations flooding the call centre if they see the changes. This way BF can instead call those affected individually to offer alternatives.

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20 minutes ago, Altranter said:

I wish Brittany Ferries wouldn't use "Sailing full" to describe sailings which have been cancelled / changed. It is just so dishonest to imply that the sailings are so busy that all places have been sold and this further undermines trust in the company. Why not just say "Not available"?

Sadly, as has been said many times on our forums, despite the much heralded "new websites", BF has always found it difficult for to respond  on line in real time to changes in its sailings unlike the airlines which seem to be able to react within seconds.

Every new version of the BF booking engine seems to be a decade behind the likes of Expedia or even Ryanair!

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7 hours ago, colinschandler said:

Every new version of the BF booking engine seems to be a decade behind the likes of Expedia or even Ryanair!

The central booking engine clearly has the functionality as customer services have access to more functionality, it is the web interface that is restricted and poor. Weaknesses in the amendment system is that one cannot amend a ticket where the original sailing is cancelled or a disability flag is set and I have seen some problems if the original cabin type does not exist on the new ship.

All of these could be solved if they wanted to. They could also add more searching ability to add cabin types in the search.

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3 hours ago, David Williams said:

All of these could be solved if they wanted to. They could also add more searching ability to add cabin types in the search.

One of the msjor psins is the ability to search, with the only option being the NEXT button. Depending on how far you are in the booking process the use of the computer back key often means stating again and inputting all the passenger details etc  again, Grrr

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