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CAP FINISTERE in Le Havre tonight (from Southampton's quay) : 

Pictures of the day 😉 View from the SS FRANCE :    

Armorique  coming into Poole, courtesy of the fjb webcam.  Seen two bods down at the Haven taking pics...😁

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Etretat’s just left Le Havre for the last time.

Cotentin will be leaving Cherbourg for the last time on this stint on the Poole route in about half an hour.

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With the suspension of Poole-Cherbourg, and light loadings on the Rosslare-Brittany routes, Armorique’s pre-passenger-start-up freight schedule is being modified this month. The France-Rosslare round trip is being dropped in favour of a weekly St Malo - Poole rotation.

The new schedule is as follows:

Mon Roscoff - Cork

Tues Cork - St Malo

Weds St Malo - Poole

Thus Poole - St Malo

Fri St Malo - Cork

Sat Cork - Roscoff

Sun Layover in Roscoff

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None of which passengers can sail on so it's all a bit academic really.

I think members are really interested in sailings that they can actually travel on to enjoy the BF experience but that still seems to be a long way in the future.

 

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Worth adding to my previous post that the schedule has Armorique arriving at Poole at 0730 on Thursdays, and departing again at 2200.  So she should be in the port all day.  It’s not a day when Pelican is due in port, so I suspect she will just stay on the berth through the day.

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9 hours ago, Gareth said:

Worth adding to my previous post that the schedule has Armorique arriving at Poole at 0730 on Thursdays, and departing again at 2200.  So she should be in the port all day.  It’s not a day when Pelican is due in port, so I suspect she will just stay on the berth through the day.

Gonna be a bit difficult to get pics of her, would have to get to Sandbanks at 06.00.  She will be tucked away at the berth otherwise.  Port is being used as a vaccination centre so not sure of access.

I’ll ponder, might be a job for the fjb webcam..🤣

 

 

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Interesting.  Cotentin’s AIS seems to imply she is crossing to Cherbourg first today.  I had been of the understanding that she was sailing direct to Le Havre.  The ETA (1500) is a lot later than she would normally arrive at Cherbourg, though - and also a lot later than would be needed if she was going to then get to Le Havre in ballast in time for her 1800 departure to Portsmouth.  I guess the Cherbourg destination in her AIS must be a mistake.

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She’s clearly heading straight to Le Havre.

Will be interesting to see what berthing mode is chosen for her on the Le Havre route.  General preference of most skippers of ferries that have used the current berth at Le Havre is that they seem to prefer to reverse up the Bassin de la Manche going in rather than down it when coming out, and hence opt for a stern-in berthing at Le Havre.  This is what the P&O Olaus did, and as well as Norman Spirit and the Caen pair that year they diverted to Le Havre.  On the other hand, when Armorique covered the route she went bow-in at Le Havre.

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14 minutes ago, Gareth said:

She’s clearly heading straight to Le Havre.

Will be interesting to see what berthing mode is chosen for her on the Le Havre route.  General preference of most skippers of ferries that have used the current berth at Le Havre is that they seem to prefer to reverse up the Bassin de la Manche going in rather than down it when coming out, and hence opt for a stern-in berthing at Le Havre.  This is what the P&O Olaus did, and as well as Norman Spirit and the Caen pair that year they diverted to Le Havre.  On the other hand, when Armorique covered the route she went bow-in at Le Havre.

for the first time since P&O, we will be able to use the terminal's two loading bridges

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2 minutes ago, LHCity said:

for the first time since P&O, we will be able to use the terminal's two loading bridges

Didn't Armorique use them previously as Gareth stated above?

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1 minute ago, Cabin-boy said:

Didn't Armorique use them previously as Gareth stated above?

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Likely, considering they're the same ships. Armorique did not come often in commercial service.

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Armorique, Normandie and MSM have all used them.  As LHC says, not often - I think Armorique spent about a month on the route, and the Caen pair only visited about half a dozen times each.

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(Of course, whether they are used this time will depend on whether there is enough freight to require use of the upper deck.  I have no idea how heavily loaded these government-contracted sailings are).

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17 minutes ago, David Williams said:

Can’t be too bad as the schedule goes to the end of the timetable.

Indeed - and therefore (presumably) past the government contract.  Pretty clear the intention is for Le Havre to remain freight-only for the foreseeable future.

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3 hours ago, Gareth said:

She’s clearly heading straight to Le Havre.

Will be interesting to see what berthing mode is chosen for her on the Le Havre route.  General preference of most skippers of ferries that have used the current berth at Le Havre is that they seem to prefer to reverse up the Bassin de la Manche going in rather than down it when coming out, and hence opt for a stern-in berthing at Le Havre.  This is what the P&O Olaus did, and as well as Norman Spirit and the Caen pair that year they diverted to Le Havre.  On the other hand, when Armorique covered the route she went bow-in at Le Havre.

Cap Finistere berthed stern on, I think she's the only other ship in recent times BF have used with both bow and stern access?

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5 minutes ago, jonno said:

Cap Finistere berthed stern on, I think she's the only other ship in recent times BF have used with both bow and stern access?

CF doesn’t really tell us much though, because she operates entirely as a stern-loader these days.  Her one-off Portsmouth-Le Havre crossing berthed stern-in at both ends.

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1 minute ago, jonno said:

I think she's bow on in Santander, stern on in Zierbena, can't really remember?

 

No, stern in everywhere for several years now.  She stopped berthing bow in at Santander when the wider linkspan was installed.  Stayed stern-in throughout when she deputised for Connemara at Rosslare too.  I think it’s because her bow access is far too narrow compared with her stern.

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Cotentin just entering Le Havre.  

She’s made good time!  Just over 6 hours from leaving the berth at Poole.  Thought it would take longer.

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