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DFDS have announced a 6 weekly Rosslare-Dunkirk freight service. It will take 24 hours and 3 vessels apparently chartered for the service, Kerry????

Possible upgraded to a passenger service at a later date.

Sorry can’t link to the press release yet.

 

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Steve at niferry.co.uk has some info.

http://niferry.co.uk

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Pelagos this morning at Dunkerque , she is chartered until end of May 

A truck driver video report from a Rosslare - Dunkerque crossing:  

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Very sensible and may be aimed at the owner/driver market with single cabins.  6 departures per week give a decent service level unlike the BF Irish services.

The press release says:-

The new route will offer customers in the Republic of Ireland and on the Continent the opportunity to transport their goods directly to or from other EU countries without customs formalities, additional costs and possible waiting times.

On 2 January 2021, DFDS will commence sailings on a new freight ferry route between Rosslare in the Republic of Ireland and Dunkerque in Northern France.

The route will be serviced by three ropax ferries, each with a capacity for up to 125 lorries and their drivers in single cabins.

There will be six weekly departures from each port, with a crossing time of 24 hours.

https://www.dfds-news.com/featured/new-direct-ireland-eu-route/

 

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9 hours ago, David Williams said:

Very sensible and may be aimed at the owner/driver market with single cabins.  6 departures per week give a decent service level unlike the BF Irish services.

The press release says:-

The new route will offer customers in the Republic of Ireland and on the Continent the opportunity to transport their goods directly to or from other EU countries without customs formalities, additional costs and possible waiting times.

On 2 January 2021, DFDS will commence sailings on a new freight ferry route between Rosslare in the Republic of Ireland and Dunkerque in Northern France.

The route will be serviced by three ropax ferries, each with a capacity for up to 125 lorries and their drivers in single cabins.

There will be six weekly departures from each port, with a crossing time of 24 hours.

https://www.dfds-news.com/featured/new-direct-ireland-eu-route/

 

Brittany Ferries is interested in getting out of her gains...  we hope that we will soon announce a new France Ireland route !

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I can't find figures to back this up but I'd be willing to bet that the number of days Dunkirk was shut due to strike action last year was a tenth of what was the case in Le Havre. Plus DFDS already have staff in place in Dunkirk and so can handle more vessels without significant extra overheads. 

Ed. 

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Pretty sure Dunkerque didn’t close at all Ed.  In fact, I’m pretty sure that there was a “no strike” guarantee in the original agreement when Norfolk Line started operating to Dunkerque in the first place.  Don’t know whether it is still in force or not.

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17 minutes ago, Gareth said:

Pretty sure Dunkerque didn’t close at all Ed.  In fact, I’m pretty sure that there was a “no strike” guarantee in the original agreement when Norfolk Line started operating to Dunkerque in the first place.  Don’t know whether it is still in force or not.

Opération "ports morts" : Calais, Dunkerque, Le Havre, Rouen, Saint-Nazaire, La Rochelle et Marseille bloqués (francetvinfo.fr)

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15 minutes ago, David Williams said:

The article says hat some ships did sail from Dunkirk !

Nice to see that the important BF ports were not affected.

Important BF ports are very small French Port. You saw these situations before Margaret Tatcher

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1 minute ago, Cabin-boy said:

You mean that French industrial relations are today still based on practices deemed sensible in the 1970s? Is that good news or bad news?

Ed. 

In any case, this is a trade union reality in France ... but this is not the point.

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10 minutes ago, LHCity said:

Important BF ports are very small French Port. You saw these situations before Margaret Tatcher

Next year I am more worried about the fishing boats blocking the ports.

Why does Margaret Thatcher still come up , I note that Macron's homage to Maradona somehow linked  his illegal goal with her !

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2 minutes ago, David Williams said:

Next year I am more worried about the fishing boats blocking the ports.

Why does Margaret Thatcher still come up in , I note that Macron's homage to Maradona somehow linked  his illegal goal with her !

For claims it is always easier to block vital ports for France (Le Havre, Nantes, Dunkirk) rather than blockIng Ouistreham or Cherbourg.

Thatcher did what was necessary to muzzle abusive union demands. I dream of it for France because our country dies of this ! 

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3 minutes ago, LHCity said:

In any case, this is a trade union reality in France ... but this is not the point.

No! The point is that, after consultation with hauliers, supply-chain specialists and distributors, the Irish and DFDS have decided that the Parisians and everybody living along the Seine Valley can survive without a daily delivery of shamrocks and Guinness. Therefore, whilst Le Havre might be the largest French container port, it has neither the appropriate infrastructure nor proximity-to-market that Dunkirk can offer for accompanied and unaccompanied trailers. Whether industrial relations played a role in the decision is unclear but Le Havre's reputation and recent record can't have helped. 

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Whilst this seems to be Positive news and I'm glad to see more Ferries and more routes springing up. 

However, how much of a Negative effect is it likely to have on the UK-Ireland routes? Surely a good proportion of the Freight passing through Holyhead, Liverpool, Pembroke and Fishguard will have been using it as a Landbridge? 

I'm sure Stena would adapt accordingly whereas P&O would probably just close the route

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I agree this is both a bold and a positive move.  Really, I’m surprised there hasn’t been an initiative to enable passengers to travel from Ireland to the heart of Europe before.  The only alternative is to have to endure England’s over-congested motorway system - who in their right mind would choose to do that if they didn’t have to!

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10 hours ago, Cabin-boy said:

No! The point is that, after consultation with hauliers, supply-chain specialists and distributors, the Irish and DFDS have decided that the Parisians and everybody living along the Seine Valley can survive without a daily delivery of shamrocks and Guinness. Therefore, whilst Le Havre might be the largest French container port, it has neither the appropriate infrastructure nor proximity-to-market that Dunkirk can offer for accompanied and unaccompanied trailers. Whether industrial relations played a role in the decision is unclear but Le Havre's reputation and recent record can't have helped. 

Ed

You were hoping that DFDS would relocate to Normandy?

Dunkirk's reputation is not good either because it is a Grand Maritime Port in the administrative sense of the word with its share of strikes and outrageous trade unionists.

Then we must not exaggerate either on the strikes. It's an obsession with you. It's worse at SNCF... and let's not forget that Brittany Ferries has experienced some as well.

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On 28/11/2020 at 15:54, chid679 said:

Whilst this seems to be Positive news and I'm glad to see more Ferries and more routes springing up. 

However, how much of a Negative effect is it likely to have on the UK-Ireland routes? Surely a good proportion of the Freight passing through Holyhead, Liverpool, Pembroke and Fishguard will have been using it as a Landbridge? 

I'm sure Stena would adapt accordingly whereas P&O would probably just close the route

It's certainly going to be an interesting period ahead.  We also need to see what modal shifts develop, e.g. move to more unaccompanied freight.

Let's see how all this capacity works out beyond the initial bumps in January/February.

I could see the Welsh routes and P&O Liverpool - Dublin losing traffic to this (and Cobelfret who also announced a capacity increase on Friday)  and also the Northern Irish routes (traffic bound for Northern Ireland may avoid the ROI ports now).

You couldn't guess any of this as we don't know what deal (or not) Boris will do and how the British and Irish deal with the bureaucracy.  I could honestly see it being next summer before we have a good feeling of the new traffic patterns.

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On 28/11/2020 at 21:45, LHCity said:

Dunkirk's reputation is not good either because it is a Grand Maritime Port in the administrative sense of the word with its share of strikes and outrageous trade unionists.

'IF' this is the case, it certainly does not appear to affect DFDS. Their three ships keep plodding on regardless and they even take a 4th ship (Calais Seaways) to Dunkerque when Calais is closed.

As Colin touched on, a big advantage for DFDS's new route from Ireland to Dunkerque, is the road network. Direct into most of Europe without the need to use Toll roads, unlike Le Havre.

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