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11 minutes ago, Chef said:

Looks like CF done last nights crossing in about 13 hours and still held back on her speed a bit , if she were ever to do a Rosslare or Cork to Roscoff she should easily do it in 10 or 11 hours maybe .

It seems that crossing time is important, what about the green argument used to justify the E flexers reduced speed.

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Couple of pics from Rosslare Europort twitter of Cap Finistere alongside at Rosslare earlier today Rosslare Europort is delighted to welcome the first ever calling of the @BrittanyFerries vessel

Looking a bit busy around Rosslare & Waterford at the moment, Stena Embla is in the bay, Stena Europe crossing the Irish Sea, Optima Seaways, Cap Finistere & Isle of Inishmore on the berths, V

Most of our regular Irish truckers have either come up from Spain or Italy on long haul runs, or Parisien wholesale markets at the beginning of the week, plus still a few shellfish boys delivering to

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3 hours ago, lg12 said:

There is some evidence of DFDS achieving very strong loads to Dunkirk, even as Stena and IF have capacity on their Cherbourg sailings. Rates seem particularly competitive on the sailings released at the very last minute, but I imagine those will pickup over the comings weeks (if they continue).

One thing to remember about the DFDS sailings is that "fully booked" often means "fully booked for drivers" which whilst decent isn't the same thing.  If it wasn't for "one driver, one cabin" would the ships be properly full?  There is no answer to that one as it's entirely hypothetical.

 

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2 hours ago, IanN said:

It seems that crossing time is important, what about the green argument used to justify the E flexers reduced speed.

Again I think this is a very complex discussion.

Nobody else is sailing driver accompanied to Spain so the argument is how big a difference an extra few hours makes via driving through France.  Rosslare - Dunkerque via Cherbourg is still quicker than sailing that route direct.

Then you have driver rest hours which can favour Dunkerque.

Very, very complex and no "one size fits all".

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59 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

One thing to remember about the DFDS sailings is that "fully booked" often means "fully booked for drivers" which whilst decent isn't the same thing.  If it wasn't for "one driver, one cabin" would the ships be properly full?  There is no answer to that one as it's entirely hypothetical.

 

Fair point, but does Visby actually have lane meters that would accommodate more than 100 or so trucks (the number of cabins on the ship). 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, lg12 said:

Fair point, but does Visby actually have lane meters that would accommodate more than 100 or so trucks (the number of cabins on the ship). 

 

 

DFDS states cabin capacity as 92 https://www.dfds-news.com/ferry/ferries-in-place-for-dfds-new-ireland-france-freight-route/

I'm not fully sure what her workable lane metre capacity is on that route as obviously she is normally used in a drive through mode.

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Demand for Ireland-Eu services is still huge, given the Stena Estrid has sailed « fully booked » with 175 trucks onboard toward Cherbourg, according to RTE.ie 

I’m wandering how busy are the Rosslare routes right now to Cherbourg.

Sorry for the off-topic part. 

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9 minutes ago, CH1 said:

Demand for Ireland-Eu services is still huge, given the Stena Estrid has sailed « fully booked » with 175 trucks onboard toward Cherbourg, according to RTE.ie 

I’m wandering how busy are the Rosslare routes right now to Cherbourg.

Sorry for the off-topic part. 

Word on the grapevine is that she wasn't actually fully booked.  Busy but still space available.  Less busy again on the way back.

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BF Rosslare - Cherbourg is now been open for booking for the rest of Feb/March (and the summer schedule as previously planned). Connemara is back on the route from 15/02. 

If you combine the weekly Rosslare - Cherbourg and the potential three weekly Ireland (Rosslare?) to a combination of Roscoff and St Malo, that would actually makes BF reasonably competitive.

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2 minutes ago, lg12 said:

BF Rosslare - Cherbourg is now been open for booking for the rest of Feb/March (and the summer schedule as previously planned). Connemara is back on the route from 15/02. 

Interesting, a month early and still with a Cypriot flag - I thought that originally it was for a crew change.

Nothing to stop CF continuing for a month if the demand is still there.

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7 minutes ago, David Williams said:

Interesting, a month early and still with a Cypriot flag - I thought that originally it was for a crew change.

Nothing to stop CF continuing for a month if the demand is still there.

The CF doesn't actually carry more freight than the Connemara does it?

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A little:- https://www.brittanyferriesfreight.co.uk/fleet/freight-capacities

CF 110, Connemara 91

However Connemara was always planned to do Cherbourg instead of Roscoff for the crew swap from mid March( presumably reflagging it to France)

CF will be sitting around doing nothing from mid Feb and could be used to add capacity to the route (or any other Irish one!)

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, David Williams said:

A little:- https://www.brittanyferriesfreight.co.uk/fleet/freight-capacities

CF 110, Connemara 91

However Connemara was always planned to do Cherbourg instead of Roscoff for the crew swap from mid March( presumably reflagging it to France)

CF will be sitting around doing nothing from mid Feb and could be used to add capacity to the route (or any other Irish one!)

 

 

 

Connemara isn't being re-flagged for the foreseeable.

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Connemara has now been added to the timetables from where CF will finish off, so BF is clearly happy that there is enough traffic to justify making this route weekly.

Edit - sorry, just seen that lg12 has posted about this above.

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France now demanding negative Covid 19 tests for all freight drivers arriving from Ireland, so today new testing facilities set up at Blue Car Park @ Dublin Airport (for Dublin Port) and Gorey Services on M11 (for Rosslare).  The tests are the simple ones with result in the hour. Extra test centre to be set up at Rosslare itself. 
Wonder if car passengers will go through these later in the year?

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That's interesting as I thought it was the the PCR test that was required. Maybe this quick test is just for freight drivers and not passenger traffic. 

Apparently Spain, and Madrid in particular, is busy with French visitors -a lot of whom are students -as everything is open including discotheques. On their return to France, if travelling by air, they need a PCR test and are paying around 60€ for the privilege. I have a student heading to Mallorca at Easter for 4 days with his wife and he's intending to get tested here on D-2 and again once there on D+2 to satisfy both country's requirements. 

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Third test centre for Irish hauliers actually set up on N25 halfway between New Ross and Rosslare. Also lorry drivers in Western Ireland can drive in their cars to Shannon or Cork airports for testing before joining their HGVs

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Correction. N25 testing station didn't open on time, but maybe Monday. Government and Wexford CC a bit slow, despite knowing France's likely requirements some time ago. 
Have not seen much feedback from freight drivers about the testing or direct ferry crossings. Anyone else heard anything?

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The first wave of truckers here this morning heading home still didn't realise a test was necessary - they'll find out quick enough! I've just seen a dozen or so who've arrived on the WBY from Dublin and all were tested at Dublin Airport yesterday, with times ranging from 15 - 60 minutes for the result on their phone.

Quick, efficient and polite were the general comments...

Chris

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Basically it says mire than 8000 lorries have arrived in Cherbourg in the last month. Ferry arrivals have double plus other ports are gearing up for more traffic.

Try cutting & pasting into Google Translate - it's improved quite a bit these days.

 

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