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I was sent this. Does anyone know what ext ra restrictions are placed on travellers to France?


at the beginning of the week President Macron made announcements about new measures to be introduced in the ongoing fight against Covid. In particular:

+ from 21 July, a "pass sanitaire" or "health pass" will be required to attend events (fetivals, sport, exhibitions, fairs, etc) and cultural spaces (theme parks, zoos, cinemas, theatres, museums, etc)  with over 50 people.

+ from 1 August, the health pass will also be required to access a range of leisure facilities (cafes, bars, restaurants, shopping centres), hospitals, retirement homes and modes of transport such as long distance train and bus journeys and flights on aeroplanes.

People who work in such places, however, have until 30 August to get fully vaccinated.

The health pass will also be required for children aged 12-17, though they also have until 30 August. For younger children it will not be required.

The health pass is not a single document; rather it is one of several things that demonstrate your COVID-19 status, notably:

+ a vaccination certificate demonstrating that you are fully vaccinated with a vaccine authorised by the European Medical Authority (ie. Oxford/AstraZeneca, Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson/Janssen). You must have had 2 doses of the first three and 2 weeks must have elapsed since your 2nd dose (though this requirement is probably being reduced to 1 week). For the single-dose Janssen vaccine 28 days must have elapsed since your injection. [Another variation is that those who can prove they have already been infected with Covid AND had a single approved vaccine dose in France at least 2 weeks ago also qualify]

OR

+ a Negative PCR or antigen test result obtained within the past 48 hours. [However, Antigen test results may no longer be accepted after 10 July]

OR

+ A document (dated more than 11 days ago and less than six months ago) proving you have recently recovered from COVID.

The pass itself can be in the form of paper certificates, including the attestation/certificate given to you at the time you were vaccinated, whether it's in the original format or the new EU Digital Covid Certificate/Certificat Covid Numérique UE featuring a QR code. For those who have been vaccinated in the UK, the French government have stated that an NHS vaccination certificate or NHS letter will be accepted (either in paper form or via the NHS app). How reliable this will be in practice may depend on the type of venue you're visiting and who is doing the checking! I know of at least 1 member who recently was able to take their British vaccination certificate to their French GP who wrote them a letter in French confirming their vaccination status.

Going forward, it would be advisable if you have an older certificate/attestation to obtain the new EU Digital Covid Certificate format, as the QR code can be readily scanned and the format is recognised across Europe (although currently the UK and the EU have yet to harmonise their systems!). The new EU format certificates only started being issued to people who were vaccinated on or after June 25th - which is why those who got their jabs earlier than that date don't have them. You can actually go back to the place you were vaccinated, present them with the old certificate and ask them to give you an attestation in the new EU format with QR code; if, for any reason they can't or won't, you can also go into any pharmacy, show them the attestation you were given and they will print out your EU one. If you are registered with CPAM and have an online account with them, there is also a website you can use (though it's reliability for non-French people is a bit variable!): https://attestation-vaccin.ameli.fr/

At some point in mid-July (any day now!) it should also be possible to download your EU Digital Covid Certificate from within your CPAM ameli.fr account; including for any children or other dependent people attached to your account.

If you have a smartphone (or a tablet that you can carry around) probably the most convenient way to present this information is via the French government's TousAntiCovid app which can be downloaded from both the Apple App Store (it is available from the UK one as well as the French one) and the Google Play Store for Android devices. One of this app's main uses is to track whether you've been in close contact with someone who later tests positive for Covid, to notify you to self-isolate/get tested (for which it needs Bluetooth enabled). However, you don't have to activate that function if you don't want to. It can still be used to scan and store QR codes of vaccination certificates, Covid tests, etc, without activating the tracking feature.

For more information see:

+ UK Gov Corona Virus France Travel advice page

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/coronavirus

+ Connexion Article "12 questions on how to use the French health pass from July 21"

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/12-questions-on-how-to-use-the-French-health-pass-from-July-21

+ EU info about the Digital Covid Certificate (English)

https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/safe-covid-19-vaccines-europeans/eu-digital-covid-certificate_en

+ French Interior Ministry information about the Pass Sanitaire and TousAntiCovid app (French)

https://www.economie.gouv.fr/tousanticovid-signal-cahier-rappel-numerique

+ French Government information page about the Pass Sanitaire and EU Digital Covid Certificate (French)

https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A15022

 

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Additionally..... At present British and other non-EU QR codes on certificates are not compatible with France’s TousAntiCovid application or with the EU Digital Covid Certificate scheme, with which it is linked.

And just how many months has Covid been with us and the blxxding obvious necessity to have a world wide compatible system.

As Bristow would say :- The mind boggles!

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France's unique travel status will be more than the variant or infection rate concerns and not straightforward. France has the largest variety of travel connections to the UK and a gateway to more freedom to travel within the EU / other areas of the world. A number of factors will be at play, for example

- the number of travel connections make France a back door into the UK with less onerous restrictions than other routes and intelligence has shown travellers are using France as a stop off point to avoid hotel quarantine or similar.
- information from travellers last year rushing back to beat quarantines showed France being used as an escape corridor for the panicking (marauding) masses, so a form of crowd control
- could even be request from France to help limit infection vectors, easier to control people departing from the UK. This could also be in return for a friendlier stance on some matter.
- there is a new variant mutation seen but not yet confirmed in it's extent or harm. We do not have all the information and the published information does not necessary show this. 

The red list rumours circulating everywhere didn't just happen, they were specific so would have been a leak, and should have been a warning to travel companies and those travelling. The Friday night update release would indicate the government will not of made this decision lightly and they have put off a decision as long as possible.

So maybe this should be viewed more positively as a classic British diplomatic / political fudge. The unique status awarded to France allows people the freedom to travel to a country of concern but with some strings.

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8 hours ago, Cabin-boy said:

I agree with your first point. I wonder if Colin in St Malo can corroborate the fact, but there has been absolutely nothing said here in mainland France with regard to the Beta varient as it is Delta which is now dominant and is only really causing concern in the Eastern Pyrenees region.

I suspect that the UK government has made a mistake and has simply scanned various figures provided by the French authorities. They may have noticed that Beta is dominant but not realised that it's only in Reunion.

Ed

I haven't heard anything here in the Vendée with regard to the Beta variant.I think the British government has made a mistake. Is the communication between the two countries' governments as good as it was?..........

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Need to get clear confirmation about whether the 72/48 hours prior to departure test is still required for vaccinated UK arrivals. Castex reported as saying no longer required, but may be some confusion with non vaccinated.

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12 minutes ago, colin said:

Need to get clear confirmation about whether the 72/48 hours prior to departure test is still required for vaccinated UK arrivals. Castex reported as saying no longer required, but may be some confusion with non vaccinated.

BBC says not required, doesn’t say anything about Children, however that should be same rule as Adults.

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email update received this afternoon, but how long it will last is anyone's guess

Update from GOV.UK for:

France travel advice

Change made:
Updated information on testing and vaccination requirements (Entry requirements) 

Time updated:
3:57pm, 17 July 2021

Travellers who are fully vaccinated do not need an essential reason to travel to France and do not need to self-isolate on arrival. From 18 July, fully vaccinated adults no longer need to present evidence of a negative test result before travel. Fully vaccinated travellers will need to present the following documents:

  • a completed ‘sworn statement’ (déclaration sur l’honneur) form self-certifying they are not suffering from symptoms associated with coronavirus and have not been in contact with confirmed cases in the preceding fortnight. This can be found on the French government’s website

  • proof of vaccination status

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At the moment the rules and regulations in both directions seem to be a total lottery in both directions and can change at less than a day's notice. Plus there are all the complications associated with personal circumstances such as tests and vaccination status.

What an utter mess! And no immediate prospect of improvement.

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Certainly  Covid and Brexit have changed the idea of popping over to Europe cheaply and without thinking about it. We now have to plan a bit and understand the rules, it is more like an expedition. Maybe we will value foreign holidays more after this.

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Maybe we will value foreign holidays more after this.

If we get any!

What we are seeing is a total failure on the part of the EU to get its act together in dealing with the virus by adopting consistent policies and likewise the failure of the UK Nations to adopt common policies for no good reason.

The situation we are all in is an indictment of the inability of the politicians to refrain from posturing and work together to confront the common peril. As a result there is no real prospect of a solution in sight. Last year we all thought it would be over by now but things are just as bad as ever really. Only the vaccines have mitigated just how much worse things might become.

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36 minutes ago, David Williams said:

Certainly  Covid and Brexit have changed the idea of popping over to Europe cheaply and without thinking about it. We now have to plan a bit and understand the rules, it is more like an expedition. Maybe we will value foreign holidays more after this.

Isn’t it the other way round?  

Those who have planned ahead and paid in advance have been scrambling around for the last 12 months swapping their refund vouchers for credit notes and re arranging their ferry for the umpteenth time, and changing route because the first one was cancelled.
 

And now I am hearing of people who have booked and paid for Covid tests to go to France in August but now find they have wasted that money, but find they need to pay for two other tests and quarantine if they come back from France -  but if they can switch to a ferry home from Spain instead of from France they can get home unnoticed. So try and change the booking again. And again.
 

It seems to me a lot better to dump the planning, pay on the spot, and go when the chance arises.

 

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13 hours ago, wortley said:

 

It seems to me a lot better to dump the planning, pay on the spot, and go when the chance arises.

We have never booked long in advance for any holiday. It takes me about 3 days to wash and iron a few shirts and collect a few other bits and pieces together. Plenty of time to book a ferry ticket.

Even long distance holidays we don't book much in advance. One month is enough to pack for a month in Mexico.

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We have never booked long in advance for any holiday.

It rather depends on what sort of holiday you want and what is important to you. Many people want specific transport options, facilities and accommodation. For example, particular ferry crossings, cabin accommodation, flight times, accommodation, rooms with a view etc. etc. Very often these are in considerable demand so you are obliged to book early if you want them. Book a few days beforehand and you have to take what is available and it probably costs just as much unless you can bag a late cancellation bargain but that's a matter of luck.

Holidays cost a lot of money and we like to makes sure we get maximum value. Of course that is in normal times though. Right now we might look for a UK bargain but it still has to be to a minimum standard or we simply won't bother. We have plenty of day trip options to places we like.

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Each to his/her own choice. My wife will never do last minute and with BF the prices never seem to go down even after a lot of cancellations / amendments. Our next crossing to Spain booked last December full flex ticket is now £38.00 more for the economy ticket than we paid for the Flexi  and we have the cabin in a location we prefer (Window cabin at the back on deck six). Also we still have the flexibility for last minute changes  In normal times last minute to Spain at the beginning of September is not an option as the crossings are full.  We had eight hotels booked for April ended up going in June changing the hotel dates took about 30 minutes and all hotels were pay on checkout so no cost.

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No but if your wife doesn't travel well on a boat the back against an  exit to the fresh air is desirable. You could also try to explain that to the people queuing on the stairs to get to the car before the boat has even docked  

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17 hours ago, David Williams said:

Certainly  Covid and Brexit have changed the idea of popping over to Europe cheaply and without thinking about it. We now have to plan a bit and understand the rules, it is more like an expedition. Maybe we will value foreign holidays more after this.

You should be OK now to return take the Daily check instead of isolating. Whoops the people in charge have now changed their minds. These people are running  ruining the country

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1 hour ago, IanN said:

You could also try to explain that to the people queuing on the stairs to get to the car before the boat has even docked  

Their logic is strange. But what about those who insist on finishing their "free" breakast in La Flora when those in most car lanes, apart from those parked behind their car, are already disembarking and in the queue for the Douanes!  Most probably they are the same people who arrive at the douanier and then have get out of the car to rummage through the luggage in the boot to find which case they safely put the passports in!!

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7 minutes ago, colinschandler said:

Their logic is strange. But what about those who insist on finishing their "free" breakast in La Flora when those in most car lanes, apart from those parked behind their car, are already disembarking and in the queue for the Douanes!  Most probably they are the same people who arrive at the douanier and then have get out of the car to rummage through the luggage in the boot to find which case they safely put the passports in!!

You have noticed that as well. It does get to me but I think "chill out what's the rush". Then curse them under my breath so the wife doesn't hear

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I've just had lunch with my wife's extended family including her cousin who lives and works in Mayotte. She came back at the start of July and spent a fortnight without any major contacts just in case she was Covid positive. She was fine but said that the fuss about Beta on the island is overblown and that Réunion is a greater hotspot but essentially under control. Delta is spreading far faster on the mainland than Beta on the islands.

Now, if you'll excuse me, there is a bit of Rose left at the bottom of this extra-large bottle which would be a shame to waste and the final stage of the Tour de France to watch on TV. 

Ed

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Our friend in Paris was discharged from hospital this morning a second time, feeling better with his blood-oxygen levels more or less back to normal, and went straight to a restaurant for lunch with his grandparents! He's been told to take it very easy for the week and this is apparently his interpretation of those instructions.

Ed

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