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2 hours ago, Cabin-boy said:

Yes, that looks like a pretty terminal problem. I can't see that 47m€ will make sense to service communities with so few people. 

Ed

There's an even more dramatic "after effect" picture on the Ouest-France website link showing 50m of sleepered  track hanging swinging in open air as Dawlish was. As you say, there is zero chance of it being open again to rail traffic it already had a 40Km/hr safety speed limit imposed. It could however make a great cycle path if the Penze viaduct at Henvic is declared safe enough.

Link - https://www.ouest-france.fr/bretagne/morlaix-29600/en-images-inondations-morlaix-sainte-seve-la-ligne-morlaix-roscoff-ravagee-5803535

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14 minutes ago, colinschandler said:

There's an even more dramatic "after effect" picture on the Ouest-France website link showing 50m of sleepered  track hanging swinging in open air as Dawlish was. As you say, there is zero chance of it being open again to rail traffic it already had a 40Km/hr safety speed limit imposed. It could however make a great cycle path if the Penze viaduct at Henvic is declared safe enough.

Link - https://www.ouest-france.fr/bretagne/morlaix-29600/en-images-inondations-morlaix-sainte-seve-la-ligne-morlaix-roscoff-ravagee-5803535

Our local former rail bridge has been transformed in just such a way. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.angers.villactu.fr/le-pont-de-segre-accessible-aux-angevins/&ved=2ahUKEwik5Yb1pOXvAhXK3YUKHXhSCtsQFjAMegQICxAC&usg=AOvVaw2kH5r5aM_NPIf_k6lT8Kic

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36 minutes ago, Cabin-boy said:

 

We may be going off topic here Ed, but not as much as FW!

The similar has been done to the rail bridge as you cross the River Camel on the closed Padstow branch line in Cornwall.

But the Penze Viaduct would be a magnificent cycle/hiking path, and hopefully cost less than 47M euros including building a footbridge to replace to washed away track.

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Only tangentially off topic .... we took off for a year in 86 - 87 and sailed from Lymington. Going into unknown ports was such a wonderful experience. I hope a list doesn't bore you too much. Some were awful, some humdrum, some good and some magic.

Camaret - Concarneau - les Glénans - la Trinité - Pornichet - la Rochelle - la Coruna - Leixos - Cascais - Gibraltar - Cartagena - Palma - Hyères - Porquerolles - St Tropez - Antibes - Bonifacio - la Maddalena - Port Grimaud - Hyères - Bandol - Marseille (Vieux Port) - Gruissan - Port Vendres - l'Estartit - Barcelona - Palma - assorted Majorca harbours - Ibiza - Calpe - Torrevieja - Almeria - Fuengirola - Puerto Banus - Estepona - la Duquesa - Gibraltar - Arrecife - las Palmas - Puerto Mogan - las Palmas - Bridgetown - every inch of Barbados.

No doubt missed some. Free beer or other beverage in St Malo when times are better for your best and worst selections.

And ..... some of them are ferry ports, though not YET served by BF.

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2 hours ago, cvabishop said:

Nobody has mentioned St Malo yet. Our first arrival, early on a sunny Summer morning with the rocks exposed was magic. What an introduction to France.

People in the UK keep talking about how much they want to visit Cornwall etc. etc. but the coastline west of St Malo is world class all the way to Le Val Andre and beyond.

That is Cap Frehel lighthouse in the distance.

Couldn't agree more. Absolutely stunning coastline. Fingers crossed we'll get back to Val Andre this year!

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No matter how many times I have been in to St Malo from the sea, on boats from 7m to the Pont Aven, I am so grateful for friends on the bridge for allowing me to savour the approach to Cézembre, the channel, Dinard to starboard and St Malo to port, the Rance and home straight ahead.

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Au contraire for the beauty of industrialised ports. There is beauty and wonder in them all, from their history, construction, the industries with and their operation that many prefer to forget but brings us all wealth and the comforts of everyday life. There is plenty to marvel at from the ingenuity of humans to how how fragile this all is in reality.

As an example, the much derided Le Havre - we enter (or leave depending on timings) along the Route Industrielle or Route de l'Estuaire, taking in the industrial zones, under the 4km conveyor built to bring stone from the quarries north of Le Hode to the cement plant at the end of the Grand Canal du Havre, passing other monuments to our grand plans, ideas and the pace of progress. Sometimes we take a pre-ferry ferry from Quillebeuf to Port Jerome across the Seine which also passes one of the major temples to our current way of life. If you have a 4x4 you can even travel the road less used along the edge Canal de Tancarville or the Grand Canal du Havre for a different perspective.

Le Havre is probably the most fascinating BF port, all the industrial ports are microcosms of wonder. Even other picturesque ports are testament to human progress and industrialisation that has moved on, some just leaving an aspic murmur of why their are there. Just reading about the cliff ports of Cornwall where modern day tourists marvel at the beauty of nature, where in reality they are looking at the ingenuity and hard work of miners past to quarry away cliff edges to make small ports to ship their raw materials to market. It is not all as it seems.

But beauty, wonder and enjoyment are in the eye of the beholder; sometimes I wish those eyes would open a little wider.

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I'd like to add Dublin to the list of naff ports. It's reached by a very boring toll tunnel after which it's like driving through Avonmouth in the UK. Once on the ferry the view across the Liffey includes the foaming outfall of the sewage works and two redundant chimneys that some in Ireland want to spend several million euros on their restoration.  

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1 hour ago, BigDW1946 said:

Once on the ferry the view across the Liffey includes the foaming outfall of the sewage works

That's the cooling water from Ringsend power station , the outfall from the water treatment plant is about 1 klm  away at the decommissioned Poolbeg power station .

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Coming back to Cobh/Ringaskiddy, I did it once ten years ago on the RORO freighter Grande Scandinavia (paying guest for a week).  Left from Bristol Portbury Dock (industrial estate) and thence to Ireland, passing the beguiling twinkling lights of Cobh's many pubs at 22.30, so by the time we'd docked and customs formalities concluded it was gone midnight and everything was shut and I stayed on board. And then we were out again at 08.00 the following morning, so nary a drop of the black stuff for me.  We did pass the Julia on our way out - anyone remember Fastnet Line ? (photo attached).Julia is now the Moby Zaza and currently laid up, I believe.

Thence to Emden in Germany - another industrial estate adjacent to the VW factory - and on from there to Esberg, where I left to join the overnight Harwich ferry, thus missing out on Antwerp and Southampton (had to get back to UK for a funeral).  Good fun, though, especially being on the bridge running in to Esbjerg. I doubt we'll be allowed to travel on freighters again for a good while yet !

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18 hours ago, Shipping Forecast said:

From the air when I flew from Aeroport de Dinard Bretagne a couple of years ago.

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My first ever trip to France, aged 11, was also my first flight: from Exeter to Dinard, stopping in Jersey; it was in a DC3, belonging to Jersey Airlines. A long time ago...but I remember the view of the French coast even now, and the excitement of the occasion. Noisy old kite. 

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