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13 minutes ago, nodwad said:

 he then sent me a e mail saying if I want to to scan his passport and send it to him he can verify it is ok for travel.

Sounds like a good plan, you will then have something in writing at check in.

I have seen a couple of tweets of praise re the BF pet experts, however they do seem to be hidden away.

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1 hour ago, David Williams said:

Sounds like a good plan, you will then have something in writing at check in.

I have seen a couple of tweets of praise re the BF pet experts, however they do seem to be hidden away.

Yes it is looking ok ,he was very prompt with his 1 st e mail in which he confirmed what people on this site told me.then 5/10 mins later he said if I wanted to send a photo copy of his passport.for him to verify it meets with the requirements.could not wish for a better service.cheers to all concerned.stay safe

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15 minutes ago, nodwad said:

Got a reply off Steve at brittany ferries this morning.alfie does not require a ahc.again many thanks to the lads on this site and to Steve at brittany ferries

Good news, Presumably Alfie will be visiting vets in Europe for his jabs from now on !

 

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Funny enough I have just been talking to a vet.who said the same.he also said anyone who takes there pet into Europe on a regular basis .should get a new passport whilst on holiday in Europe . ie Eu passport and get there jabs done over there and this would save pet owners a lot of money.the price I was given £250 the first time then £180 everytime after that for ahc .so a big saving if pet owners did this, just glad I asked on this site and you and scarlton  pointed me in the right direction.

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Hi, Newbie here,

I’ve just paid £130 for the second time this year for the AHC. I even missed out on visiting family in Ireland with my husband 4weeks ago as we would have needed an AHC for that and another for this trip to France. It pains me every time and I’m sure the vets have better things to do than to read, fill out, sign, stamp, photocopy 13 pages of bureaucratic shite. 

When I first used one in March, BF at Portsmouth went through it with a fine tooth comb. Border control at Cherbourg weren’t interested, the guy didn’t even look at it. He just handed it straight back to me saying, “just give me the passport.” What a joke!
 

I shall definitely be asking our french vet for an eu passport when I get there, but in the meantime could everybody check out change.org and sign a petition to try to get this mess sorted out. I don’t think the last one got enough signatures, so let’s bump up the numbers.
I can’t seem to get the link to work but if you’re interested then just enter “Bruno Nicolas” in the search on change.org and you should hopefully find it. 

Cheers

 

 

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9 hours ago, Joellesonjia said:

Hi, Newbie here,

I’ve just paid £130 for the second time this year for the AHC. I even missed out on visiting family in Ireland with my husband 4weeks ago as we would have needed an AHC for that and another for this trip to France. It pains me every time and I’m sure the vets have better things to do than to read, fill out, sign, stamp, photocopy 13 pages of bureaucratic shite. 

When I first used one in March, BF at Portsmouth went through it with a fine tooth comb. Border control at Cherbourg weren’t interested, the guy didn’t even look at it. He just handed it straight back to me saying, “just give me the passport.” What a joke!
 

I shall definitely be asking our french vet for an eu passport when I get there, but in the meantime could everybody check out change.org and sign a petition to try to get this mess sorted out. I don’t think the last one got enough signatures, so let’s bump up the numbers.
I can’t seem to get the link to work but if you’re interested then just enter “Bruno Nicolas” in the search on change.org and you should hopefully find it. 

Cheers

 

 

They don't always check the AHC as they make BF check them all at check-in. They then push the time and awkward conversations onto the person checking you in 

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18 hours ago, Joellesonjia said:

Hi, Newbie here,

I’ve just paid £130 for the second time this year for the AHC. I even missed out on visiting family in Ireland with my husband 4weeks ago as we would have needed an AHC for that and another for this trip to France. It pains me every time and I’m sure the vets have better things to do than to read, fill out, sign, stamp, photocopy 13 pages of bureaucratic shite. 

When I first used one in March, BF at Portsmouth went through it with a fine tooth comb. Border control at Cherbourg weren’t interested, the guy didn’t even look at it. He just handed it straight back to me saying, “just give me the passport.” What a joke!
 

I shall definitely be asking our french vet for an eu passport when I get there, but in the meantime could everybody check out change.org and sign a petition to try to get this mess sorted out. I don’t think the last one got enough signatures, so let’s bump up the numbers.
I can’t seem to get the link to work but if you’re interested then just enter “Bruno Nicolas” in the search on change.org and you should hopefully find it. 

Cheers

 

 

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Mrs Allee finally lost her 18 month battle with cancer in June this year .

Initially I put off going back to the house we made together in France, however encouraged  by our  massive Anglo French family and friends joined together forever,  Merci  Alexis Gourvennec,  and shame on you current BAI management. And for my own mental health,  I finally plucked up the courage and 2 weeks ago  I made the trip, in the process paying 150 UK quids to a licenced bandit with the title Official Vetinarian, for an AHC. On arrival at check in,  as a test i showed our last dog passport to the operative and asked if I we could have traveled on it, first i was told yes, but that answer was changed  as it had a Rabies vaccination performed by a UK vet in a French passport, So Nodwad beware !  Actually the reason i believe  is that in France Rabies Shots  last a year,  in the UK exactly the same rabies shot lasts 3. I respectfully pointed out the said Vaccination was carried out before the UK chose to leave the EU. No matter we traveled on the AHC,  page  15 of which is a "certified Copy" of the so called  "illegal" dog passport - go figure!

On my return yesterday at Ouistreham  the check in  lady asked for the dog passport,  claiming never to have seen or know about an AHC, she told me she used to work on the Information desk on Normandie but had been redeployed to shore at Ouistreham June ,she alsop did not know that MSM has no dog cabins - doh!  I did produce my my recently acquired fully legal French Dog passport but, together we worked through the questions asked by the silly UK database,  in the field relating to section 11 of an AHC or section 2 of a passport there is a fundamental cock up only the UK is capable of, the database asks rigidly for the date of implantation of the Animals microchip yet the passport and AHC have implantation or reading of the said chip as the criteria, I knew this to be a problem  Lord only knows what would happen if you did not know this info? and had specifically asked our very cheap (comparatively) vet in Bayeux to enter the implantation date and not the reading date,  producing our dogs very first UK  passport as proof of fact,  she was 8 years old while we  were in France and has at least 6 passports to her name, many of which are full but others "defaced" by over eager French vets . 

I hope the above info is  is useful to fellow travelers

Both Mrs A and I had/have  tee shirts for demos which stated Brexit  would be a dogs breakfast, how prophetic they were!

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21 hours ago, alleeganger10 said:

Mrs Allee finally lost her 18 month battle with cancer in June this year .

Initially I put off going back to the house we made together in France, however encouraged  by our  massive Anglo French family and friends joined together forever,  Merci  Alexis Gourvennec,  and shame on you current BAI management. And for my own mental health,  I finally plucked up the courage and 2 weeks ago  I made the trip, in the process paying 150 UK quids to a licenced bandit with the title Official Vetinarian, for an AHC. On arrival at check in,  as a test i showed our last dog passport to the operative and asked if I we could have traveled on it, first i was told yes, but that answer was changed  as it had a Rabies vaccination performed by a UK vet in a French passport, So Nodwad beware !  Actually the reason i believe  is that in France Rabies Shots  last a year,  in the UK exactly the same rabies shot lasts 3. I respectfully pointed out the said Vaccination was carried out before the UK chose to leave the EU. No matter we traveled on the AHC,  page  15 of which is a "certified Copy" of the so called  "illegal" dog passport - go figure!

On my return yesterday at Ouistreham  the check in  lady asked for the dog passport,  claiming never to have seen or know about an AHC, she told me she used to work on the Information desk on Normandie but had been redeployed to shore at Ouistreham June ,she alsop did not know that MSM has no dog cabins - doh!  I did produce my my recently acquired fully legal French Dog passport but, together we worked through the questions asked by the silly UK database,  in the field relating to section 11 of an AHC or section 2 of a passport there is a fundamental cock up only the UK is capable of, the database asks rigidly for the date of implantation of the Animals microchip yet the passport and AHC have implantation or reading of the said chip as the criteria, I knew this to be a problem  Lord only knows what would happen if you did not know this info? and had specifically asked our very cheap (comparatively) vet in Bayeux to enter the implantation date and not the reading date,  producing our dogs very first UK  passport as proof of fact,  she was 8 years old while we  were in France and has at least 6 passports to her name, many of which are full but others "defaced" by over eager French vets . 

I hope the above info is  is useful to fellow travelers

Both Mrs A and I had/have  tee shirts for demos which stated Brexit  would be a dogs breakfast, how prophetic they were!

Sorry about your loss,regarding alfie Steve Laurie the port operations manager asked me to scan Alfie's passport and send it him.which I did he replied that his passport was ok to travel he said that it was a English vet done his rabies injection it was done before brexit ie 31/12/2020.so he met the rules of travel and did not need a ahc.my vet at home told me the same as well.look after your self

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On 26/09/2021 at 23:09, alleeganger10 said:

Mrs Allee finally lost her 18 month battle with cancer in June this year .

Initially I put off going back to the house we made together in France, however encouraged  by our  massive Anglo French family and friends joined together forever,  Merci  Alexis Gourvennec,  and shame on you current BAI management. And for my own mental health,  I finally plucked up the courage and 2 weeks ago  I made the trip, in the process paying 150 UK quids to a licenced bandit with the title Official Vetinarian, for an AHC. On arrival at check in,  as a test i showed our last dog passport to the operative and asked if I we could have traveled on it, first i was told yes, but that answer was changed  as it had a Rabies vaccination performed by a UK vet in a French passport, So Nodwad beware !  Actually the reason i believe  is that in France Rabies Shots  last a year,  in the UK exactly the same rabies shot lasts 3. I respectfully pointed out the said Vaccination was carried out before the UK chose to leave the EU. No matter we traveled on the AHC,  page  15 of which is a "certified Copy" of the so called  "illegal" dog passport - go figure!

On my return yesterday at Ouistreham  the check in  lady asked for the dog passport,  claiming never to have seen or know about an AHC, she told me she used to work on the Information desk on Normandie but had been redeployed to shore at Ouistreham June ,she alsop did not know that MSM has no dog cabins - doh!  I did produce my my recently acquired fully legal French Dog passport but, together we worked through the questions asked by the silly UK database,  in the field relating to section 11 of an AHC or section 2 of a passport there is a fundamental cock up only the UK is capable of, the database asks rigidly for the date of implantation of the Animals microchip yet the passport and AHC have implantation or reading of the said chip as the criteria, I knew this to be a problem  Lord only knows what would happen if you did not know this info? and had specifically asked our very cheap (comparatively) vet in Bayeux to enter the implantation date and not the reading date,  producing our dogs very first UK  passport as proof of fact,  she was 8 years old while we  were in France and has at least 6 passports to her name, many of which are full but others "defaced" by over eager French vets . 

I hope the above info is  is useful to fellow travelers

Both Mrs A and I had/have  tee shirts for demos which stated Brexit  would be a dogs breakfast, how prophetic they were!

No problem with alfies passport.has long as his rabies jab was done before January 1 2021 and this is valid until his jab runs out In 2023.very poor information on this off brittany ferries.i. Would of paid £250 for his ahc ,if it was not for a couple of guys on this site.a thank you to you all.

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I have just travelled to Santander on PA with two doggies both with EU passports, one was issued in Santander 4 years ago and  the other in Portugal, puppy only one year old so first times passport used.   
we were pulled over just past passport control whereby the passports were inspected and we sailed!!  through.

There was no pre preparation to sail, worming for eg., just up to date rabies and full passport with correct details.

 

whilst checking the passport, the guard noticed my Yorkshire teabags and tried to confiscate them, but his boss said no! Good chap!

I did notice alongside there was a car being emptied of plants brought over and being stacked in a bin ( probably in somebodies garden by now)!  To a big warning, don’t waste your money thinking they won’t notice!

 

 

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Returned on Galicia on Saturday 16th, when checking in the girl on the check in desk said the dogs passport was incorrectly filled in when it was issued.

She was confused by the fact that in June we traveled to Portugal with an AHC, then the vet in Portugal issued a passport.

The issue being that the passport noted that the microchip was read in June not inserted, I had the original UK vets paperwork stating when the microchip was inserted, but  she would not accept that.

I asked for the supervisor, who duly arrived, looked at the paperwork and waved me through.

That girl on the desk caused so much a delay that passengers with pets were lucky they did not miss the ferry.

 

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On 04/10/2021 at 21:12, BillS said:

 Well, I have finally managed to get a response from their server. It would not accept the NHS vaccination certification so I was forced to select the “Other” form as required when unable to upload the certificate.

That then gave me an email but headed in Red

REMEMBER that you must bring your NEGATIVE certificate for the RT-PCR test, or other tests based on equivalent molecular techniques (TMA, LAMP), carried out in the 72 hours prior to arrival, which may be required on entry to Spain by the health authorities.” 

And, very helpfully:

“Based on your responses, it would be advisable not to travel to Spain. 

BUT it then provided a very nice QR Code with the word GREEN printed below.

So that should get me on the boat perhaps and I just hope in Spain, they will accept the NHS certificate…..

I will telephone the helpline in the morning to see if I can get a written “opinion”.

IT systems! - BillG, you have a lot to be responsible for!

 

 

 

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We arrived in bilbao on the 12 October.only asked for passports no mention of the qr paper work.the cars were going through passport control very quickly and never saw one car handing over qr form.so rest easy and enjoy your holidays

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17 hours ago, clivebeaver said:

The issue being that the passport noted that the microchip was read in June not inserted, I had the original UK vets paperwork stating when the microchip was inserted, but  she would not accept that.

The checkin person was adhering to the EU rules regarding EU pet passports:

“the date of administration of the vaccine does not precede the date of marking or reading of the transponder.”

This is causing problems for UK travellers with pets who apply for an EU Pet Passport to avoid the need for the Animal Health Certificate - several have been denied boarding. The issue is caused by the foreign vets interpretation of the wording, e.g. in French “vu” meaning read i.e. when the chip was read, not when it was transplanted. There is a FB group where this is being discussed  - Travel Between UK And France. A reply from BF regarding their position on the issue has been posted in one of the threads.

It maybe a good idea to get your Spanish vet (I assume you are a Spanish resident) to change the date to avoid further problems.

The EU rules can be read here:

https://ec.europa.eu/food/animals/movement-pets/eu-legislation/non-commercial-movement-within-eu_en

 

Bob.

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The fact that my paperwork when both parts were taken into consideration proved that:

“the date of administration of the vaccine does not precede the date of marking or reading of the transponder.”

The fact was she point blank refused to listen to me or read the uk paperwork, hence my need for requesting to speak to her superior.

The fact that I was allowed to board by the supervisors intervention surely means that the check in person did not understand the rules.

Clive

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The problem is Clive, the EU no longer have to recognise UK paperwork and pet passports, no matter what is written on them. At least the supervisor used his common sense, but, if he had not been available, I doubt you would have been allowed to board. As I said, according to the FB group boarding has been denied to several passengers over this same issue.

It is a closed group, so I don’t think I am allowed to cut and paste the threads here. But in the reply from BF to an email to them from one passenger, BF state that “the date of the microchipping in a French passport must be before the date of the rabies vaccination”.  And for the Animal Health Certificate “you must ensure the microchip date is before the rabies vaccination date”. It would be the same for a Spanish version.

If a passenger was allowed to board “erroneously” and were subsequently not allowed entry into the destination country, BF would be held liable.

Get your vet to change the date and bosh, you won’t have a problem next time, you’ll sail through! (and not hold me up👍)

Bob

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