Andy Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Shippax are reporting that BF and STX France are to develop an 'Eco-friendly-ferry'. Update: Brittany Ferries and STX France team up to develop eco-friendly superferry Leading French ferry operator, Brittany Ferries, and shipbuilder, STX France, are embarking on a joint project to develop a new generation of environmentally-friendly passenger ferries. Powered by dual fuel engines, which will burn liquefied natural gas (LNG) combined with a high efficiency electric propulsion system, the new vessel will reduce energy consumption and CO2 emissions by 15 - 20% compared to current ferries. Furthermore, pollution by nitrous and sulphurous oxides will be almost eliminated. But the quest for innovation does not end simply with the use of LNG, as the structure will make use of lighter compound materials and high strength glues, together with advanced hull design. The new ship will not only be clean but large and fast, being able to accommodate 2,400 passengers, 650 cars and 40 lorries and have a maximum speed of 25 knots. Announcing this joint venture Jean-Marc Roué, Brittany Ferries' Chairman said: "Our company has a history of innovation having built a fleet of luxury cruise-style ships that serve our passengers well on the Western Channel routes between the UK, France, Spain and Ireland. Also, as a company founded by farmers, largely owned by farmers and based in Brittany, an area with a rich maritime history, we have a profound respect for the environment and a deep understanding of the need to preserve scarce resources. We therefore are particularly proud to be a partner with STX, a shipyard based in St. Nazaire, on a project which will set new standards in environment-friendly ferry development." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ferry Man Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Hmm what to replace... The Bretagne? - Oldest in the fleet now... Normandie? Either one will be sad to see go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaines Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Well - let's not hope it will be Barfleur IF her re-instatement doesn't bear enough fruit. That's if they replace ANY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of the Seas Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Most likely to replace Pont Aven (which will more than likely replace Bretagne) at a rought guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derf Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Wonder if it'll be the first ferry with an X bow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico22 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Wonder if it'll be the first ferry with an X bow? An Xbow with an openning garage door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve in France Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' passengerships.fr are saying that BF are going to make an order soon. See the link. http://www.passengerships.fr/actus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleander Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' They are following the path taken by Viking Line by choosing for LNG as fuel. Seems to be the new trends, perhaps they will use this new ship on their routes to Spain. Because somewhere else on the forum there was an article saying that all ferries travelling to Spain have to meet a standard for CO2 and greenhouse gas emmissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derf Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' I'm no marine architect, but from watching Discovery channel etc, an x-bow would be perfect for the bay of Biscay in terms of comfort in pitch and roll. Uses less fuel as well apparently. I'm sure some bow doors would be fairly easy to engineer into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Wonder if it'll be the first ferry with an X bow? I don't get the sense that BF are ever that keen to go with really cutting edge design. They took forever to move to HSC after waiting for the glitches to be ironed out and perhaps PA is a result of waiting for the likes of the Superfast series to prove themselves ? Eco-ferry is a bit of a loose term. Emissions are one element, hull paint is another. Waste water recycling, electrical power generation/usage, wake........lots of boxes they could tick to pin some green credentials to the mast. Not forgetting the environmental costs of the raw materials used in the first place to construct whatever they design. I wonder if whatever comes of the study might see the ship being built in a French STX yard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' I wonder if whatever comes of the study might see the ship being built in a French STX yard ? Well I am sure that unions and the French Government will be pushing for it as usual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prfd Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Well I am sure that unions and the French Government will be pushing for it as usual! ...now that the yards are Corean owned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' ...now that the yards are Corean owned! still French jobs though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' I wonder if whatever comes of the study might see the ship being built in a French STX yard ? Probably, I'm sure there's probably some deal where they get a deal by helping out with the study... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crechbleiz Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' ...now that the yards are Corean owned! St-Nazaire and Lorient shipyards (ex alstom) are exploited by STX France which is owned by STX Europe 66.6% and the french state 33.4%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prfd Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' St-Nazaire and Lorient shipyards (ex alstom) are exploited by STX France which is owned by STX Europe 66.6% and the french state 33.4%. .. and STX Europe is South Corean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve in France Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Wasn't Bretagne built in Saint Nazaire ? (Chantiers de l'Atlantique as it was at that time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Wasn't Bretagne built in Saint Nazaire ? (Chantiers de l'Atlantique as it was at that time). yes it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crechbleiz Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' .. and STX Europe is South Corean. Yes indeed. The 33.4% owned by the french state are what we call "minorite de blocage". It is the smallest ownership that gives them the right to veto everything they need/want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartie Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Wasn't Bretagne built in Saint Nazaire ? (Chantiers de l'Atlantique as it was at that time). The last BF ship to be built in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' In today's local french newspaper Le Télégramme : http://www.letelegramme.com/ig/generales/economie/ferry-du-futur-brittany-ferries-s-allie-a-stx-24-03-2011-1245045.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' In today's local french newspaper Le Télégramme : http://www.letelegramme.com/ig/generales/economie/ferry-du-futur-brittany-ferries-s-allie-a-stx-24-03-2011-1245045.php Just a quick points from the article: BF are in talks regarding the project with the Chantiers de l'Atlantique. The project is named Pegasis as in Power efficient gas innovative ship. Both BF and the yard are looking at fundings under the «navire du futur» section of the Grand Emprunt in France (series of money lending deals available in France). One of the difficulties mentioned is stocking the gas onboard. Also mentioned is the unlikely order of more conventionally fuelled ships by BF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crechbleiz Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' A good article on Mer et Marine on the same subject: http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=115682 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ferry Man Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Press Release http://press.brittanyferriesmailers.co.uk/online-version/index.php?prid=149 Interesting pieces: "shipbuilder, STX France" - Being built in France then Powered by dual fuel engines, which will burn liquefied natural gas (LNG) combined with a high efficiency electric propulsion system The new ship will not only be clean but large and fast, being able to accommodate 2,400 passengers, 650 cars and 40 lorries and have a maximum speed of 25 knots. - thats a lot of passengers... what route? a Spain route seems likely maybe? A replacement to the Cap Finistere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elCercado Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Re: BF and STX to develop 'Eco-ferry' Based on those specifications, more like Pont-Aven, which seems to be already establishing itself part-time on the St. Malo crossing. However, the launch of such a vessel will be a long way off, and who knows what might have changed in terms of routes and frequencies by then? Bretagne fans need not panic just yet (and I, for one, would be quite happy to see her around for a long time yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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